Re: The 2nd Amendment as a Gun Nuts Wet Dream

Morton Davis wrote:
> 
> "Diogenes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Pat Hines wrote:
> > > Steve Krulick wrote:
> > >
> > >> Morton Davis wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> "David Lentz" <dlentz10@/*NOSPAM*/rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Speedbyrd wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> <snip>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>> And that can be changed and that is what I'm doing my part to
> > >>>>>>> help to
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> happen.
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>> You anti-government radicals make me tired.  You wouldn't be such
> a
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> bigmouth without the firearm.  It's go to
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>> go.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I find it amusing that my simple assertion of a fundamental right
> > >>>>>> to keep and bear arms is labeled as as anti government tirade.  I
> > >>>>>> also note that the same hoplophobe finds the Constitution be to
> > >>>>>> an impediment, much like B.J. Clinton did and the United Nations
> > >>>>>> does.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> David
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm thrilled that you're amused.
> > >>>>> Bearing arms is NOT a right, whether you like it or not.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>    The Speedbyrd :>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It seems almost unfair to pick on the historically challenged.
> > >>>> Such is life:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one
> > >>>> people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them
> > >>>> with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the
> > >>>> separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of
> > >>>> Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of
> > >>>> mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel
> > >>>> them to the separation.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are
> > >>>> created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with
> > >>>> certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty
> > >>>> and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights,
> > >>>> Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers
> > >>>> from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of
> > >>>> Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of
> > >>>> the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new
> > >>>> Government, laying its foundation on such principles and
> > >>>> organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most
> > >>>> likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed,
> > >>>> will dictate that Governments long established should not be
> > >>>> changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all
> > >>>> experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer,
> > >>>> while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by
> > >>>> abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a
> > >>>> long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the
> > >>>> same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute
> > >>>> Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such
> > >>>> Government, and to provide new Guards for their future
> > >>>> security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these
> > >>>> Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to
> > >>>> alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the
> > >>>> present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries
> > >>>> and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of
> > >>>> an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts
> > >>>> be submitted to a candid world.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> A citizen of the United States is assumed to have the God given
> > >>>> right to dissolve his political bonds.  So said Thomas
> > >>>> Jefferson.  So we did absolve are bonds to King George.  For a
> > >>>> free citizenry to retain her inherent power to absolve her
> > >>>> government,  she must remain armed.  The militia was armed on
> > >>>> April 19, 1775 and free citizens must retains that same right
> > >>>> today.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Question: If you sent a copy of the Declaration of Independence,
> > >>> without its
> > >>> title, to Teddy Kennedy, would he recognize it? Or would he carry it
> > >>> into
> > >>> the Congress with him and denounce it the way he did a direct quote
> from
> > >>> Thomas Jefferson?
> > >>>
> > >>> -*MORT*-
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> That's funny BrainDead! As YOU "recognized" 'direct quotes' from
> > >> Jefferson and Washington that NEITHER ever said, and posted them
> > >> as if they were real! Remember? May 2001:
> > >>
> > >> YOU are a lying, disingenuous, uneducable troll!
> > >>
> Interestingly: I DID NOT QUOTE JEFFERSON ABOVE,

I never said you did, strawslinger! But you questioned Teddy's
ability to recognize the DoI, you patronizing twerp, and yet
swallowed a bogus hoax quote "by" Jefferson without ever
questioning ITS validity, or admitting it was bogus when I
called you on it. Around the same time you hoisted a hoax quote
by WASHINGTON as if IT were the holy grail that proved that
every individual had a sacred right to own a gun! When called on
IT, you didn't admit you were taken, but defended your cite by
reposting it repeatedly, and ad hommed me.

> nor was the quote Ted
> Kennedy got all upset about the quote SK is harping about.

Irrelevant, strawslinger; I never said it was. I'm merely
pointing out that YOU are in no position to talk about
recognizing cites as real, or admitting to being hoaxed.

> But then, SK is a
> self-admitted lieing troll.

That would be "lying" if it WERE true, but it's not, BrainDead.

All you have to do is post the cite of ME 'self-admitting' that
I'm a "lying troll" and we can resolve your claim. Otherwise,
you're just lying!

> -*MORT*-
BrainDead, and don't hold your breath waiting for proof of his
blatant assertion!

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