Re: Progressives must unify to topple the fascist dictator

Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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> > Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ulTRAX) wrote in
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> >> > It's an easy task to prove that our system is unrepresentative and
> >> > Robert Dahl does a comparative study in his book "How Democratic is
> >> > the American Constitution". As for being dysfunctional I think that
> >> > too is easy to prove. Our system has resisted reforms that most all
> >> > other advanced democracies have instituted to better reflect the
> >> > will of their people. When a system routinely provides NO
> >> > representation to half the voters and can produce minority
> >> > control... that's pretty dysfunctional. You see none of the above
> >> > as problems because you have no respect for democratic ideals. If
> >> > you did... you'd see this on your own.
> >> 
> >> Divided government is good, GOOD, ya hear?
> >> 
> >> Maybe you prefer the Soviet model. Say, Cuba?
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> > WTF are you babbling about Einstein? I would like the US Senate
> > changed from an anti-democratic institution into a national parliament
> > based on nation-wide party elections. If the Greens or Libertarians
> > each get 5% of the national vote... they each get 5% of the seats.
> > Gee... what a no brainer! Currently our winner-take-all system totally
> > disenfranchises all citizens voting for losing candidates by depriving
> > them of representation. And you wonder why the US has the lowest voter
> > participation? We don't have a system where we're all free to vote our
> > conscience... only the less of the evils.
> > 
> > Proportional representation such as most of the other advanced
> > democracies have in one form or another would finally diversify our
> > government. Is that what you want? Or do you prefer the dysfunctional
> > struggle between the two major parties.
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> You want a dysfunctional struggle between 20 parties?

Given that the US is the US's dysfunctional electoral system is
EXCEPTION not the rule in the advanced democracies, how do the OTHER
advanced democracies manage? Usually there's party that has a majority
or they if not, parties have an opportunity to make a governing
coalition. Minor parties may not have much power but at least they are
there representing citizens who believe in their views. If you find
such FAIR presentation of the citizenry objectionable then you not
only have problems with the very idea of democracy but of competition
in marketplace of ideas.