Re: Evidence Mounts That U.S. Military is LYING About "Victory At Samarra"

"Winston Smith, American Patriot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
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> "David Hartung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in inimitable style:

> >> http://hume.realisticpolitics.com/WarCriminalBush.html
> >> http://hume.realisticpolitics.com/warcrimesargs.html
> >
> > The above are not credible sources.
>
> Translation:  I could not refute the sound points and arguments in those
> essays.
>
> > Once again, you have failed to make the case that the invasion was
> > illegal, especially under US law.
>
> U.S. law does not pertain.

Huh? Show me where the oaths that our leaders take requires them to uphold
anything other than our Constitution.

> The Nuremberg Trials were not about judgments under U.S. law.

How is that relevant?

> Crimes Against The Peace and crimes of war go beyond U.S. law.  They
> represent the formality of the outrage of humanity.  They represent the
> efforts of many great human beings, many of them Americans (Eleanor
> Roosevelt, Robert Jackson, to name but a few), that when the winning side
> in a war is the side of humanity, that humanity would not merely lash out
> and kill the losers as victors, as had been the case in wars past.
> Humanity wants to make examples of the losers, and to punish them as part
> of that example.

IOW you have not a clue what you are talking about.

> The fact that a fascist right winger like yourself does not recognize the
> authority of international law, which formalizes the outrage and mercy of
> all humankind, is not surprising.

1. From where I sit, you have yet to make the case that the United States is
in violation of international law.

2. If International law is used to prop up the sort of scum that was
personified in Saddam Hussein, then why should any just, rational individual
give it any credance?

> That's what makes international law so nice.  It acts as a check on a
> President Bush who asks from a rubber-stamp Congress for U.S. legal
> authority to "let me kill those Muslim bastards wherever they are and
> whenever I want to for whatever reason."  It does not let a criminal
> bastard named Bush then assert before his tribunal that he had full
> authority to do whatever he wanted, "because U.S. law gave me that
> privilege and authority."

You seem to have let your own dislike of President Bush get in the way of
the truth.