Re: Evidence Mounts That U.S. Military is LYING About "Victory At Samarra"

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:11:16 GMT, "Winston Smith, American Patriot"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Logic-Defying "Fact" #1:  U.S. suffers not one death, but kills 54 Iraqis 
>("Saddam fedayeen") who have some or even extensive military training.....?  
>And it takes fewer Iraqis to kill 2-3 U.S. troops in other "ambushes."
>--------------------------------------------------------


We heard you dopes crying about 'Jenin' as well.

>Iraqis dispute Samarra battle casualties 
>Monday December 1, 2003 
>
>The aftermath of the weekend battle in Samarra, which the US has claimed 
>was the deadliest since the war ended, today appeared murkier than first 
>reports suggested, as residents of the central Iraqi city accused 
>Washington of exaggerating its death toll.
>
>Initial US statements put the number of Iraqi dead at 46, with five 
>American soldiers injured, but the US today put its figure up to 54 Iraqi 
>fatalities.
>
>It also said that many of the dead Iraqis were wearing the uniform of the 
>Fedayeen, the militia most closely associated with Saddam Hussein and most 
>loyal to him
>
>But the Associated Press reported that some in Samarra believed fatalities 
>were much lower than the US's figures and that most of the dead were armed 
>civilians.
>
>It quoted one of the city residents claiming that civilians had grabbed 
>their guns when the US soldiers fired on insurgents who had attempted to 
>ambush their convoy.
>
>"Civilians shot back at the Americans," said 30-year-old Ali Hassan, who 
>was wounded by shrapnel in the battle. "They claim we are terrorists. So 
>OK, we are terrorists."
>
>The battle, fought by the US with tanks and machine gun-equipped Bradley 
>fighting vehicles, followed simultaneous ambushes on a US convoy travelling 
>through Samarra on the main road from Baghdad to Tikrit.
>
>Lieutentant Colonel William MacDonald of the 4th Infantry Division said the 
>response had sent a "clear message" that US would use its firepower to stop 
>such attacks.
>
>The US has been stepping up the scale of its response to the insurgents in 
>recent weeks.
>
>The scale of the attack and its apparent coordination has, however, shown 
>that rebels retain the ability to conduct synchronised operations despite 
>the offensive.
>
>At least 104 coalition troops, including 79 from the US, have died in Iraq 
>in November, the deadliest month since the war ended. 
>
>Samarra is within the so-called Sunni triangle north of Baghdad, the 
>heartland of Saddam Hussein loyalists.
>
>The scars of the battle were today evident in Samarra. About a dozen cars 
>lay destroyed in the streets, many apparently crushed by tanks, and 
>buildings were strewn with bullet holes. 
>
>Six destroyed vehicles sat in front of the hospital, where witnesses said 
>US tanks shelled people dropping off the injured. A kindergarten was 
>damaged, apparently by tank shells. No children were hurt.
>
>"Luckily we evacuated the children five minutes before we came under 
>attack," said Ibrahim Jassim, a 40-year-old guard at the kindergarten. "Why 
>did they attack randomly? Why did they shoot a kindergarten with tank 
>shells?"
>
>The weekend also saw seven Spanish intelligence agents, two Japanese 
>diplomats, a Colombian oil worker and two South Korean engineers killed in 
>Iraq.
>
>US officials said insurgents were targeting citizens of nations that 
>support the occupation of Iraq in an effort to undermine public support for 
>the operation.
>
>Both Tokyo and Seoul said that the attacks would not deter them from 
>sending troops to Iraq.
>
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1097338,00.html


JD





"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence
reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his
chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile
delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists,
including Al Qaeda members..."
---- Hillary Clinton, Oct 10, 2002

"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent.  Since when have 
terrorists and 
tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? 
If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words and 
all recriminations
would come too late."
  -President George W. Bush 
   January 28, 2003
   (Another liberal lie exposed.)