Re: Resolution on Zionism Tainted U.N.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deborah Sharavi) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> <<SUTFF SNIPPED TO SAVE ON CYBERSPACE<
> 
> I doubt saving cyberspace was the reason for the snip, but let it go.

You should check my other posts. You will see I do it often when there
is a lot of old stuff pasted over and over.

> IOW, you have no evidence that Zionism is racism.

I don't know what IOW means, but if you want evidence look at the
legal system of Israel. If you can dismiss every example I give as not
being evidence there is nothing I can do. Evidence is interpreted
sensory information. If you refuse to interpret you will see no
evidence.
 
> So, when did the League of Nations place limits on 
> the number of Jews in Israel "sometime before WWII"?

I haven't time to study the variance of quotas with time. You can
study it yourself using google, ' "League of Nations" quota jews'

> <<The strategy of the Jews on the ships was to get out 
> <<of European concentration camps. (Contrary to your 
> <<notions, the "ships" were not "big boats". Fex, the 
> <<famous Exodus, fka the President Warfield, was a 
> <<Chesapeake Bay steamer with a passenger capacity of 
> <<900. When rammed by British destroyers in July 1947, 
> <<she was carrying 4,515. )  Most of the ships utilized between 1945 and 
> <<1948 carried far fewer refugees from Europe. 
> 
> <Ok no need to be nerdy.
> 
> Correcting errors is not nerdy. 

I referred to the Exodus as a ship and you give me the passenger
number correct to four significant figures.

> <Why, if Jews were native Palestinians, did they come from other
> <countries? 
> 
> Turn the question around. If Arabs were native Palestinians, 
> why did they come from other countries?

Palestinian Arabs? There were a majority of Palestinian Arabs living
in Palestine who descended from Palestinian forefathers. The majority
of Jews in Palestine in 1950 were not native to the land. They grew up
elsewhere. Why do I have to elucidate this? It is neither subtle or
complex. Should not be too difficult for your mind to grasp.

> The fact is, the population of western Palestine in the last decades
> of the 19thC had been severely reduced. With the advent of Jews 
> and the various Jewish enterprises under the Zionists, immigration
> rates for both Jews AND Arabs rose dramatically. But there was 
> never a time when there were no Jews resident in Israel at any time 
> in the last 3,200 years.

Yes there were always a few Jews. So what?

> 
> <It is universally accepted that if your forefathers are
> <born in a state and you have grown up with them in that same state,
> <you have no citizenship in the state from which your forefathers
> <originated.
> 
> British Palestine was not a state; it was a mandated
> territory, the same as the mandated territories of 
> Lebanon, Syria, Mesopotamia, Tanganyika, Togoland, 
> Cameroon (British and French), Ruanda-Urundi, South 
> West Africa, German Samoa, New Guinea, and Nauru.

That does not help your cause.

> 
> <<And if, in 
> <<fact, you :lost your citizenship and rights to 
> <<your homeland" when "your forefathers migrate" 
> <<from a country, do explain what Pallies are 
> <<doing claiming a slice of Israel, since their 
> <<forefathers migrated from it a few generations
> <<ago. 
> 
> <I have made this point myself and so advocated peace and forgiveness
> <in Israel. I even suggested that Palestinians should move out into the
> <Middle East and not waste their lives with terrorism.
> 
> I second the motion. 
> 
> <<What specific acts of "terrorist atrocities against
> <<UN approved 'peace keepers' did Jews commit during
> <<WWII "when we were busy fighting Hitler?
> 
> <http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,690-5823,00.html
> 
> The link produces:
> TIMESONLINE
> "The area you wish to access is behind registration."

I didn't get this message. Try registering. If you still have trouble
or are unwilling to register I will post the contents of the page in a
reply.

> 
> What specific acts of "terrorist atrocities against
> UN approved 'peace keepers' did Jews commit during
> WWII "when we were busy fighting Hitler?

The list above admittedly details crimes after 1945, but that is a
moot point. If you really want to quibble I will paste some other
links. That may seem lazy of me, but I am not a research historian, it
is not by career.

> 
> <<Taking into 
> <<consideration the fact that Jews of Palestine fought 
> <<on the Allied side against Hitler - as opposed to 
> <<Arabs of Palestine, who were ardent Hitlerites 
> <<prior to and during the war.
> 
> <URLS?
> <Your remaining paragraphs call for examples. I hope you will not
> <dismiss the ones above as being 'discredited.'
> 
> I can hardly dismiss them until I've seen them. 

You should be able to see them soon I hope