Re: will britain convert to islam?

THATCHER THE FEMALE KILLER OF THE MINERS
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> > Who's tatcher?
>
> That is a real preson so you don't have to worry about it.
> So how are the pixies?
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> > "Heinrich Müller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > "William S. Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
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> > > >
> > > > They have found insanity and death...
> > >
> > > that was already the case when margaret (the bitch)tatcher was in
power
> !
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Heinrich Müller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > > > The idea is not as impossible, as bizarre or distant as you might
> > think.
> > > > An
> > > > > astonishing Channel 4 programme last week - The Last White Kids --
> > > showed
> > > > > two English children who live in an entirely Muslim district
> becoming
> > > > > enthusiastic attenders at the local mosque, wrapping themselves in
> > > Islamic
> > > > > draperies and learning the Koran.
> > > > >
> > > > > Amie Gallagher, nine, and her sister Ashlene, 12, are
> all-too-typical
> > > > > children of modern Britain in some ways, daughters of a
> single-parent
> > > > > household where the father is absent.
> > > > >
> > > > > In Islam they seem to have found something that would otherwise be
> > > missing
> > > > > from their lives. At the mosque there is authority, certainty,
even
> > > > > disciplined education in the Arabic language and the Koran.
> > > > >
> > > > > This has happened because the Gallaghers are the only white family
> in
> > a
> > > > > suburb otherwise completely dominated by Asian Muslims.
> > > > >
> > > > > If they move away, as they may well do, then perhaps the two
girls'
> > > > > attachment to the mosque will fail. Their brother, Jake, has not
> > > followed
> > > > > them down the Muslim path and has instead become even more
defiantly
> > > > English
> > > > > than he might otherwise have done.
> > > > >
> > > > > But this strange little story contains a warning for Britain as a
> > whole,
> > > > as
> > > > > it careers ever more rapidly down the path of permissiveness which
> > began
> > > > so
> > > > > gently in the Sixties and now slopes ever more steeply downwards
> > towards
> > > > > sexual chaos, drunkenness, family breakdown and the epidemic use
of
> > > > > stupefying drugs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sooner or later, as in every other era of human history, there
will
> be
> > a
> > > > > revulsion against this licence, a desire to stop the waste,
cruelty
> > and
> > > > > misery which these things bring, especially to children.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where will that revulsion come from? In the 18th and 19th
Centuries
> it
> > > > came
> > > > > from Christianity and the mighty but forgotten Temperance
movements
> > > which
> > > > > reacted against the squalor and misery of Hogarth's Gin Lane, and
> > whose
> > > > > effects we still just feel.
> > > > >
> > > > > But Christianity shows little sign of doing the job a second time.
> Its
> > > > > leaders are more concerned about foreign conflict than about
> domestic
> > > > > misery, and more interested in the sexual tastes of bishops than
in
> > > trying
> > > > > to regulate the confused sex lives of Britain's young.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Christian churches have all but disappeared from the lives of
> the
> > > > > British people. The chapels of Wales are gaunt ruins, the great
> Roman
> > > > > Catholic churches of the industrial North West are often empty and
> > > > derelict,
> > > > > the Anglicans scuttle about in their hallowed, lovely buildings
like
> > > mice
> > > > > amid ancient ruins, rarely even beginning to fill spaces designed
> for
> > > > > multitudes.
> > > > >
> > > > > The choirs and the bells gradually fall silent, the hymns are no
> > longer
> > > > sung
> > > > > and one by one the doors are locked and places which in some cases
> > have
> > > > seen
> > > > > worship for centuries become bare museums of a dead faith.
> > > > >
> > > > > Few listen to what these churches say. They have become exclusive
> > clubs,
> > > > > whose members celebrate bizarre rituals which are baffling to
> > outsiders.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Christian message is a difficult and complicated one, which if
> not
> > > > > learned in childhood is hard for adults to understand. The
Christian
> > > > > ceremonies, viewed coldly by an outsider unschooled in 2,000 years
> of
> > > > > tradition, are positively peculiar. Why would anyone eat God?
> > > > >
> > > > > When Christianity was part of our culture and its beliefs were
> handed
> > > down
> > > > > in homes and schools, its familiarity kept it strong. Everyone
knew
> > > Bible
> > > > > stories, hymns and prayers. Now it is at least as alien to many
> young
> > > > people
> > > > > as Islam, if not more so because it does not seem to be interested
> in
> > > > them.
> > > > >
> > > > > But Islam is interested in them. And Islam is growing. More and
more
> > > > British
> > > > > cities have seen the domes and minarets of smart, prominently
> > positioned
> > > > new
> > > > > mosques rising in their neighbourhoods.
> > > > >
> > > > > A large and imposing Islamic centre is now nearing completion in
> > Oxford,
> > > > one
> > > > > of Christian England's holiest places. Imagine what would happen
if
> > > > > Anglicans sought to build a Christian centre in Qom, Isfahan,
Najaf
> or
> > > > > anywhere on the soil of Saudi Arabia, and wonder what Muslim
leaders
> > > think
> > > > > of Christian feebleness on such matters.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks to the immigration of recent decades, Britain has a young,
> > > > energetic
> > > > > and swelling Muslim population which is increasingly assertive
about
> > its
> > > > > faith.
> > > > >
> > > > > Official Islam may disapprove of such things but there have even
> been
> > > > signs
> > > > > of the Muslim intolerance towards Christianity that is a nasty
> feature
> > > of
> > > > so
> > > > > many Islamic societies.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the Bradford suburb of Girlington, not far from where the
> > Gallaghers
> > > > live
> > > > > in Manningham, Asian youths tried to set fire to an Anglican
church.
> > > Soon
> > > > > afterwards, a Brownie pack leader was attacked in a nearby street
by
> > > young
> > > > > men who snarled 'Christian bitch' at her.
> > > > >
> > > > > An isolated and meaningless incident? You might hope so, but it
> would
> > be
> > > > > unwise to be sure.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you travel to these areas, you get the sense that Islam, one of
> the
> > > > great
> > > > > forces of history, long ago defeated by the armies and navies of a
> > > mighty
> > > > > Christian Europe, is once again feeling its strength and finding
> that
> > it
> > > > has
> > > > > been able to penetrate what were once the most impregnable
> fortresses
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > > great rival.
> > > > >
> > > > > Islam's appeal, wherever it has triumphed, has been in its
> simplicity.
> > > It
> > > > > requires submission to some basic, straightforward rules which are
> > > easily
> > > > > kept, and in return it offers that most wonderful and rare
> commodity,
> > > > peace
> > > > > of mind. To modern Westerners, its attitude towards women seems
> > > incredibly
> > > > > backward and even hateful.
> > > > >
> > > > > But as the reactions of Ashlene and Amie Gallagher show, its
> > discipline,
> > > > > safety and certainties have an appeal for girls lost in the
churning
> > > seas
> > > > of
> > > > > permissiveness, whose own families have been weakened by the
> crumbling
> > > of
> > > > > the two-parent family, the absence of fathers and the impermanence
> of
> > > > > husbands, if there are husbands in the first place rather than
> > > boyfriends
> > > > > and ' babyfathers'.
> > > > >
> > > > > And in most societies it is the women who sustain religions in the
> > home
> > > > and
> > > > > among children. In a country in the grip of unbelief, those with
> > strong,
> > > > > clear convictions and an uncluttered message have a great
advantage
> > over
> > > > > those who offer nothing but choices to the perplexed and cannot
seem
> > to
> > > > make
> > > > > up their minds about anything.
> > > > >
> > > > > So if eventually Britain begins to sicken of strong lager, pools
of
> > > vomit,
> > > > > Bacardi Breezers, bouncers looming on every High Street, the
> > > battlefields
> > > > in
> > > > > the streets of many towns on Friday and Saturday nights, ecstasy
> > > tablets,
> > > > > cocaine, football-worship, pregnant 12-year-olds, morning-after
> pills
> > > and
> > > > > all that goes with them, is it possible that puritan Islam will be
> the
> > > > cause
> > > > > that benefits?
> > > > >
> > > > > If bureaucratic police and feeble justice continue to fail to
> suppress
> > > > crime
> > > > > and disorder, will the savage but simple remedies of Sharia law
> begin
> > to
> > > > > appeal to the British poor, who are already weary of seeing
> dishonesty
> > > > > triumph everywhere and lawless violence go unchecked?
> > > > >
> > > > > Might Islam become respectable among the politically correct
middle
> > > > classes,
> > > > > in a way that Christianity never really can, because Christianity
is
> > > > always
> > > > > associated in this country with the conservative, imperial past?
> > > > >
> > > > > You will already find plenty of bright young Muslims in our
> > > universities,
> > > > > many of whom are impressive and diligent students, and their
> influence
> > > is
> > > > > bound to increase as they move into the professions.
> > > > >
> > > > > The idea of an Islamic Britain may seem highly unlikely now, amid
> what
> > > > still
> > > > > seems to be more or less a Western, Christian society. We are used
> to
> > > > > thinking of Islam as a religion of backward regions, and of
backward
> > > > people.
> > > > >
> > > > > But we should remember that Muslim armies came within inches of
> taking
> > > > > Vienna in 1683 and were only driven from Spain in 1492. In those
> days
> > it
> > > > was
> > > > > the Islamic world that was making the great scientific advances
> which
> > we
> > > > now
> > > > > assume are ours by right.
> > > > >
> > > > > And is it any more unlikely than the things which have happened
here
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > past 40 years, during which a country of peaceful,
self-restrained,
> > > lawful
> > > > > and rather prudish men and women has been transformed into the
land
> of
> > > sex
> > > > > and swearing on TV, ladettes, semi-legal cannabis and armed
police?
> > > > >
> > > > > If we don't respect our own customs and religion, we may end up,
as
> > > > Ashlene
> > > > > and Amie Gallagher have done, respecting someone else's. Don't be
> > > > surprised.
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