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Re: will britain convert to islam?



Who's tatcher?
"Heinrich Müller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "William S. Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
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> >
> > They have found insanity and death...
>
> that was already the case when margaret (the bitch)tatcher was in power !
> >
> >
> > "Heinrich Müller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > The idea is not as impossible, as bizarre or distant as you might
think.
> > An
> > > astonishing Channel 4 programme last week - The Last White Kids --
> showed
> > > two English children who live in an entirely Muslim district becoming
> > > enthusiastic attenders at the local mosque, wrapping themselves in
> Islamic
> > > draperies and learning the Koran.
> > >
> > > Amie Gallagher, nine, and her sister Ashlene, 12, are all-too-typical
> > > children of modern Britain in some ways, daughters of a single-parent
> > > household where the father is absent.
> > >
> > > In Islam they seem to have found something that would otherwise be
> missing
> > > from their lives. At the mosque there is authority, certainty, even
> > > disciplined education in the Arabic language and the Koran.
> > >
> > > This has happened because the Gallaghers are the only white family in
a
> > > suburb otherwise completely dominated by Asian Muslims.
> > >
> > > If they move away, as they may well do, then perhaps the two girls'
> > > attachment to the mosque will fail. Their brother, Jake, has not
> followed
> > > them down the Muslim path and has instead become even more defiantly
> > English
> > > than he might otherwise have done.
> > >
> > > But this strange little story contains a warning for Britain as a
whole,
> > as
> > > it careers ever more rapidly down the path of permissiveness which
began
> > so
> > > gently in the Sixties and now slopes ever more steeply downwards
towards
> > > sexual chaos, drunkenness, family breakdown and the epidemic use of
> > > stupefying drugs.
> > >
> > > Sooner or later, as in every other era of human history, there will be
a
> > > revulsion against this licence, a desire to stop the waste, cruelty
and
> > > misery which these things bring, especially to children.
> > >
> > > Where will that revulsion come from? In the 18th and 19th Centuries it
> > came
> > > from Christianity and the mighty but forgotten Temperance movements
> which
> > > reacted against the squalor and misery of Hogarth's Gin Lane, and
whose
> > > effects we still just feel.
> > >
> > > But Christianity shows little sign of doing the job a second time. Its
> > > leaders are more concerned about foreign conflict than about domestic
> > > misery, and more interested in the sexual tastes of bishops than in
> trying
> > > to regulate the confused sex lives of Britain's young.
> > >
> > > The Christian churches have all but disappeared from the lives of the
> > > British people. The chapels of Wales are gaunt ruins, the great Roman
> > > Catholic churches of the industrial North West are often empty and
> > derelict,
> > > the Anglicans scuttle about in their hallowed, lovely buildings like
> mice
> > > amid ancient ruins, rarely even beginning to fill spaces designed for
> > > multitudes.
> > >
> > > The choirs and the bells gradually fall silent, the hymns are no
longer
> > sung
> > > and one by one the doors are locked and places which in some cases
have
> > seen
> > > worship for centuries become bare museums of a dead faith.
> > >
> > > Few listen to what these churches say. They have become exclusive
clubs,
> > > whose members celebrate bizarre rituals which are baffling to
outsiders.
> > >
> > > The Christian message is a difficult and complicated one, which if not
> > > learned in childhood is hard for adults to understand. The Christian
> > > ceremonies, viewed coldly by an outsider unschooled in 2,000 years of
> > > tradition, are positively peculiar. Why would anyone eat God?
> > >
> > > When Christianity was part of our culture and its beliefs were handed
> down
> > > in homes and schools, its familiarity kept it strong. Everyone knew
> Bible
> > > stories, hymns and prayers. Now it is at least as alien to many young
> > people
> > > as Islam, if not more so because it does not seem to be interested in
> > them.
> > >
> > > But Islam is interested in them. And Islam is growing. More and more
> > British
> > > cities have seen the domes and minarets of smart, prominently
positioned
> > new
> > > mosques rising in their neighbourhoods.
> > >
> > > A large and imposing Islamic centre is now nearing completion in
Oxford,
> > one
> > > of Christian England's holiest places. Imagine what would happen if
> > > Anglicans sought to build a Christian centre in Qom, Isfahan, Najaf or
> > > anywhere on the soil of Saudi Arabia, and wonder what Muslim leaders
> think
> > > of Christian feebleness on such matters.
> > >
> > > Thanks to the immigration of recent decades, Britain has a young,
> > energetic
> > > and swelling Muslim population which is increasingly assertive about
its
> > > faith.
> > >
> > > Official Islam may disapprove of such things but there have even been
> > signs
> > > of the Muslim intolerance towards Christianity that is a nasty feature
> of
> > so
> > > many Islamic societies.
> > >
> > > In the Bradford suburb of Girlington, not far from where the
Gallaghers
> > live
> > > in Manningham, Asian youths tried to set fire to an Anglican church.
> Soon
> > > afterwards, a Brownie pack leader was attacked in a nearby street by
> young
> > > men who snarled 'Christian bitch' at her.
> > >
> > > An isolated and meaningless incident? You might hope so, but it would
be
> > > unwise to be sure.
> > >
> > > If you travel to these areas, you get the sense that Islam, one of the
> > great
> > > forces of history, long ago defeated by the armies and navies of a
> mighty
> > > Christian Europe, is once again feeling its strength and finding that
it
> > has
> > > been able to penetrate what were once the most impregnable fortresses
of
> > its
> > > great rival.
> > >
> > > Islam's appeal, wherever it has triumphed, has been in its simplicity.
> It
> > > requires submission to some basic, straightforward rules which are
> easily
> > > kept, and in return it offers that most wonderful and rare commodity,
> > peace
> > > of mind. To modern Westerners, its attitude towards women seems
> incredibly
> > > backward and even hateful.
> > >
> > > But as the reactions of Ashlene and Amie Gallagher show, its
discipline,
> > > safety and certainties have an appeal for girls lost in the churning
> seas
> > of
> > > permissiveness, whose own families have been weakened by the crumbling
> of
> > > the two-parent family, the absence of fathers and the impermanence of
> > > husbands, if there are husbands in the first place rather than
> boyfriends
> > > and ' babyfathers'.
> > >
> > > And in most societies it is the women who sustain religions in the
home
> > and
> > > among children. In a country in the grip of unbelief, those with
strong,
> > > clear convictions and an uncluttered message have a great advantage
over
> > > those who offer nothing but choices to the perplexed and cannot seem
to
> > make
> > > up their minds about anything.
> > >
> > > So if eventually Britain begins to sicken of strong lager, pools of
> vomit,
> > > Bacardi Breezers, bouncers looming on every High Street, the
> battlefields
> > in
> > > the streets of many towns on Friday and Saturday nights, ecstasy
> tablets,
> > > cocaine, football-worship, pregnant 12-year-olds, morning-after pills
> and
> > > all that goes with them, is it possible that puritan Islam will be the
> > cause
> > > that benefits?
> > >
> > > If bureaucratic police and feeble justice continue to fail to suppress
> > crime
> > > and disorder, will the savage but simple remedies of Sharia law begin
to
> > > appeal to the British poor, who are already weary of seeing dishonesty
> > > triumph everywhere and lawless violence go unchecked?
> > >
> > > Might Islam become respectable among the politically correct middle
> > classes,
> > > in a way that Christianity never really can, because Christianity is
> > always
> > > associated in this country with the conservative, imperial past?
> > >
> > > You will already find plenty of bright young Muslims in our
> universities,
> > > many of whom are impressive and diligent students, and their influence
> is
> > > bound to increase as they move into the professions.
> > >
> > > The idea of an Islamic Britain may seem highly unlikely now, amid what
> > still
> > > seems to be more or less a Western, Christian society. We are used to
> > > thinking of Islam as a religion of backward regions, and of backward
> > people.
> > >
> > > But we should remember that Muslim armies came within inches of taking
> > > Vienna in 1683 and were only driven from Spain in 1492. In those days
it
> > was
> > > the Islamic world that was making the great scientific advances which
we
> > now
> > > assume are ours by right.
> > >
> > > And is it any more unlikely than the things which have happened here
in
> > the
> > > past 40 years, during which a country of peaceful, self-restrained,
> lawful
> > > and rather prudish men and women has been transformed into the land of
> sex
> > > and swearing on TV, ladettes, semi-legal cannabis and armed police?
> > >
> > > If we don't respect our own customs and religion, we may end up, as
> > Ashlene
> > > and Amie Gallagher have done, respecting someone else's. Don't be
> > surprised.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>





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