Re: US med. industry are ripp-off compared to Europen system

On 28 Nov 2003 06:14:31 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Riku Simonen)
wrote:

>Gretchen Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> On 26 Nov 2003 11:03:12 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Riku Simonen)
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (DWood78828) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> >> >> >
>> >What an illusion and hypocracy! Good americans again saving the world.
>> >Get real! Fact is that european drug companies are profitable and
>> >produce lots of new drugs so American companies are handy but not
>> >neccesary for world medicine needs.
>> >I just wonder why ordinary americans accept to pay many times more
>> >than europeans. I havent noticed that is would even be an issue in US.
>> >Either american do not know about the price difference or buy
>> >propaganda like you presented. And how can price control be evil if it
>> >works in europe even for european companies? Answer is american
>> >prejudice that government control must always be evil regardless of
>> >the result.
>> >I just feel pity for those millions of uninsured poor people who can't
>> >afford medicine they need. A morally unacceptable situation at least
>> >from european point of view.
>> >
>> >Riku
>
>> Obviously just another USA hater who willingly accepts the many
>> hand-outs we've provided in past years yet continually bitches about
>> things that don't concern him at all. 
>> 
>> Just take your plane in line, 'Riku', and keep your hand out, you'll
>> get your share. 
>> 
>> pixie
>
>I dont hate USA but your writing is quite revealing. You seem to think
>that
>all or most critique of America is unacceptabele because it is done by
>amerian hater. That is logical fallacy ad hominem. Your view that
>everyone who criticizes america are america hater is far from truth.
>Many of us europeans have mixed thoughts about america. We admire the
>prosperity of america but we
>have different values about social security for example. We feel that
>is is
>wrong that there are millions and millions of uninsured men in US who
>dont
>get proper treatment or medicine because they cost to much.

Actually what business of yours what the US does internally?  I don't
hear many Americans criticising Findland; actually most Americans
could care less what Findland does internally.  On what basis do you
think that it's your business?

>You american think by yourself as so moral man and woman and still you
>have this situation, great poverty among black, crazy gun culture,
>lost war on drugs, still much higher homicide rates than in europe,
>death penalty, Guantonamo bay prisoners 18 months without trial, etc.
>And foreign policy play with ousting democratically elected president
>and setting up military dictatorship instead (Chile in 70's), etc
>
Yep, we've had our problems, but again, what business is it of yours?
Has Finland been harmed by any of our actions?

>Maybe the rage against european critizism of America is because you
>dont want
>to see the real problems in your country. 
>
I'm aware of the real problems in our nation far much better than you,
Riku, and have spoken out against many of them on numerous occasions.
I'd suggest you take a look at the multitude of problems caused by
Europeans in the past 100 years... including two world wars.  And also
think of where much of the assistance and aid came from during those
troubled times. 

And if you don't like the US, so be it.  No problem.. Don't visit,
don't emigrate, don't purchase our goods, etc.  We'll survive nicely
without your support.

pixie