Re: What is Quackery?

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> > > > > > > > > > > > Quackery was yesterdays alternative medicine, is
> today's
> > > > > > > > complementary
> > > > > > > > > > > > medicine, and will be tomorrow's new branch of
> medicine.
> > > > What
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > considered Quackery is purely a matter of politics.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No, what is quackery is a matter of science. If the
> > available
> > > > > > > science
> > > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > > > not support it, it is quackery. Like chiropractic,
> > naturopathy
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > homeopathy.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Correct. It never ceases to amuse me when these alties
> pull
> > the
> > > > old
> > > > > > > > > > "what is quackery is all politics" whine (which they do
> > > > frequently).
> > > > > > > > > > With only a few exceptions, it's just not true. Quackery
> is
> > > > > > unproven,
> > > > > > > > > > unsafe, or demonstrably ineffective treatment being
pushed
> > as
> > > > > > > effective
> > > > > > > > > > treatment.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Like water fluoridation...?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >   Water flouridation is a highly successful program.  Are
you
> a
> > > > quack?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Water fluoridation has been proved to cause more
> > > > > > > caries than it prevents.
> > > > > > > Go read up on Basel..Switzerland.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Provide the URL for your assertion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally, I'd prefer a reference to a scientific study published
> in
> > > > > the peer-reviewed scientific literature. Anyone can come up with a
> URL
> > > > > to some anti-fluoridation site run by "advocates," and I'm sure
> "Jez"
> > is
> > > > > quite capable of coming up with the URL to some kook site or
other.
> > > > >
> > > > Aww  more asshole-ness
> > >
> > > If it's "asshole-ness" to ask you to produce a well-designed
scientific
> > > study to support your assertion, then so be it. I'll add to the
> > > "asshole-ness" by pointing out that you dodged the question,
preferring
> > > the ad hominem attack to actually supporting your assertions.
> > >
> >
> > Do your own fucking research.
> >
> > >
> > > > I'm against mass-medication...so therefore must be a 'kook'
> > >
> > > Not necessarily you, but several of the anti-fluoridation sites I've
> > > seen are clearly run by kooks. And I bet you've seen them all.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Not with the Nazis were ya?
> > >
> > > I hereby invoke Godwin's Law. You lose.
> > Oh good.
> > What did I lose exactly?
>
> Any semblence of credibility.
>
>From people who approve the mass medication of the population, and
the drugging of our children because our teachers are too useless
(Or tied up with red-tape)
to teach them properly.

Wow ! what a loss !

-- 
Ho hum
Jez
 "Few of us can easily surrender our belief that
society must somehow make sense.  The thought
that the State has lost its mind and is punishing so
many innocent people is intolerable. And so the
evidence has to be internally denied."
- Arthur Miller