Re: Medicare Means Test

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Founding Father <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>"Herman Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> BTW, I would include the currently non-violent terrorists,
>> such as religious fanatics of any religion, whether or not
>> it has a deity or deities, which would impose the dicta of
>> their religion on behavior, or threaten people with dire
>> consequences if they do not observe the religion.  Notice
>> that this includes all evangelists.  Libertarians do not
>> tell you to do anything as long as you do not force others.

>What the hell is a "non-violent terrorist?"

The one who tells you that not believing a certain way will
lead to horrible results in the afterlife is a terrorist,
whether violent or not.  As is the one who imposes economic
or social sanctions against "pagans" and "infidels".

        And why is he a threat?

It should be obvious.  Terrorism is being used against those
children who are ostracized for refusing to say the words
"under God" in the pledge.  I personally see these as either
government sponsored prayer or if not, for those who believe
in the Decalogue, as an explicit violation of the Third
Commandment, which is the way I see it.

                        There
>are no such people in the U.S. - unless, of course, you mean the radical
>secular humanists who run around like the Taliban tearing down religious
>symbols that have been standing for 50, 100 or more years and denying people
>their free exercise of religion.

I agree to a considerable extent with disliking Secular
Humanism, especially as it is used in the schools.  However,
free exercise of religion does not mean the right to use
coercion to convert others to your beliefs.  That includes
those of my religion who do this, even if only to those they
consider heretics.

>You're beginning to sound like the intolerant fanatic with your hatred of
>all religion.  I guess you would have had most of the founding fathers (with
>Tom Paine being the most notable exception) imprisoned, deported or killed.

I do not hate religion; what I hate is the attempt to put
pressure to convert, or to impose religious dicta (any
religion) on those who do not wish to follow them.  I
consider Marxism, and much of the "liberalism" in this
group, to be religion; religion does not just have to do
with deities worshiped.

Jefferson was religious; he had no brief for any of the
organized religions.



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