Re: Graduated National Health Plan Needed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bettina) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > "Karl" said: <> 
> > > > >> > > > > > > If it was as cut and dried as you make it out JS this issue 
> > > > >> > > > > > > wouldn't have the political life to linger as long as it has.
> > > >
> 
> And THAT is what this all boils down to. Data and tables and
> statistics and links are not the only path to the truth 

Not the only - but it takes the emotion and the subjectivity out of
it.  Do you really want decisions about your health care made based on
good information or someones intuition?

> and they
> certainly do not inspire major political change. Like it or not, human
> beings make choices based on not just their left brains but their
> feelings and experiences,  which is why the issue of universal
> coverage is not going to go away. (js, since you're obsessed with 
> definitions and subsets, single payer is a subset of UC, okay?)

Absolutely - SP is a subset of UC - Just like  a Staff Model HMO
(Kaiser)is a subset of managed care.  But we all know that a staff
model HMO is UNIQUE (right Pixie?) - hence I claim the SP is also
UNIQUE.

If you want to suggest that all SP are UC - fine, but you need to also
understand that not all UC is SP.  In fact, few UC are SP and neither
you nor pixie has gotten to the holy grail - an SP that actually
works.  Got a few great examples of UC that work - Kaiser,
Germany...but not a one in the SP category.

You two want SP but are having so much trouble defining it, makes one
think you'd never even come close to implementing it.

js