Re: Gun control doesn't work--so what?

"Cole Firearms Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "D.A. Tsenuf" wrote:
> >
> > "Cole Firearms Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Trevor Wilson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Shane Yeager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > > *snipped for brevity*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Trevor Wilson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >**I never said that guns cause violence. Not once. Guns merely
> > facilitate
> > > > > >easy and cheap destruction of human life for those with a violent
> > > > > >disposition. Look at the assault rates in the UK, the US and
> > Australia:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_ass_cap
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The rates of assault for all three nations is broadly similar.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Now look at the homicide rates, from bullets in each country:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_wit_fir_cap
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >American assaults seem to more often lead to homicide. Americans
are
> > far
> > > > > >more adept at killing each other, yet seen to have approximately
> > similar
> > > > > >violent tendencies to other nations. The only glaring differnce,
is
> > the
> > > > easy
> > > > > >availability of cheap firearms in the US.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > --->From the nationmaster site, US firearm murders were 8259, and
> > > > > overall murders were 12689 (about 65% firearm related murders
(FRM.))
> > > > >  The UK stats are 62 FRM from a total of 850 (7%.)  Overall murder
> > rates
> > > > > were .05 per 1000 for the US, and .01 per 1000 for the UK.
Assuming
> > > > > that guns availability were the only difference in the rates, what
do
> > > > > you suppose the difference in non-gun rates comes from?  Non gun
rate
> > > > > for the US= .05*(1-.65), or roughly .0175 per 1000, vs the UK's
> > > > > .01*(1-.07), or .0093 per 1000.  As murder without guns is almost
> > twice
> > > > > as common (per capita) in the US as the UK, there must be more
> > involved
> > > > > than just saying that the guns are responsible for the difference.
> > > > >  Comments?
> > > >
> > > > **Not just guns. The training and handling of those guns, is also at
> > issue.
> > > > Americans seem to be very proficient at killing their countrymen
with
> > > > bullets. Given the rate of assault is similar in the US and the UK,
it
> > is
> > > > reasonable to assume that UK residents may well be able to kill
> > (provided
> > > > they are similarly skilled to their US cousins) their countrymen at
a
> > > > similar rate to Americans.
> > > >
> > > > Guns, as opposed to fists, knives, et al, do not require the
personal
> > > > interaction between victim and assailant. As such, guns may be
doubly
> > > > efficient at killing. This, BTW, is a fact known to military
trainers
> > all
> > > > over the planet. Much time is spent on recruits, desensitising their
> > inbuilt
> > > > resistance to killing another human. Guns perform this task
admirably.
> > >
> > > That is the purpose of the Gun. If Soldiers have a resistance to
> > > Killing, they need to be desensitized to that problem.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > "the Gun" (sic) ?
> > Why on earth is it being capitalized ?
> >     Are you treating it like a deity ?
> >
> > By the way, where do all those "amateur" killers, as opposed to soldiers
and
> > police,  go to get "de-sensitized" ?
>
> Through proper training and repetition of actions the act itself can
> become instinctual rather than intellectual.
>

Wow..
Makes you wonder where all the bodies created through such extensive
practice are buried..
Makes you wonder how the population in the US has been able to grow to 330+
million..


>
> >     In particular where do all those British and Australian killers go ?
>
> Do you mean after they serve in the Military? They join society, they
> often own Guns, and become lawful members of society.
>

No, dummy for their training to be "de-sensitized" killers
And obviously you missed the fact that you're response proves that your
original post was a crock full of shit..




>
> -- 
> ""Sic Semper Tyrannis" - Thus Always with Tyrants - John Wilkes Booth"
>
> "Per ardua nec flectitur nec mutat. Confido,
> est voluntas dei, invictus maneo. Addere leci justitiam
> deo certavi et vici." - Rev. Shawn Cole, Cole Firearms Inc.


Must be nice to be able to quote Latin
But you'd be more credible if you first learned to read English..