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In my initial post under this thread, I failed to mention the reseach I am doing (for the last 18 months or so) at the Library of Congress, which is the impact of Christianity on Chinese culture during the 16th,17th, and early 18th centuries -- from a Chinese point of view. For this purpose, I have read perhaps 200 books so far. Still, I find posts in response to mine refreshing and perceptive; I thank you. This post is added on the assumption that many readers may not be aware of a Chinese emperor (Kang hsi)'s change of heart from tolerance to the following, in 1721 (original in Chinese in the emperor's own writing, translation is from Paul Rule's "Kung-tzu or Confucius?" (1986), p 145; words in parentheses are added by me for clarification) On reading this proclamation [from the pope, prohibiting Chinese Christians from paying respects to Confucius], I can only conclude that the Westerners are small minded. How can they talk about the great ideas of China? No Westerners [who presented themselves on behalf of the pope] understands Chinese books, and when they discuss them, our people find many of their remarks ridiculous. Now I have seen the Legation's proclamation, and it is just the same as Buddhist and Taoist heresies and superstitutions. I have never seen such nonsense as this. Henceforth no Westerner may propagate his [missionaries at that time, all Catholics, were invariably male] religion in China. It should be prohibited in order to avoid more trouble. >From what I read, early Christianity in Europe sought tolerance when it was in >infancy, and switched to tactics to dominate once it had a footing. Its followers tried to replicate this strategy in China, not realizing that a footing, while firm in Europe with the conversion of an emperor and such, may be infirm when that strategy is transplanted to a culture with a longer and readily verifiable history, but of which its followers have no knowledge, as suggested in the above quotation. I also find the following, among others, very much worth repeating: > > It depends on the religion. If the goal of the religion is to convert > > all mankind, as Fundimental Christianity is, then yes. If on the > > other hand, the religion is very live and let live, ..., > > then no. > > > > Democracy as it exists in the USA says tolerate all religions. However > > a basic conflict arises when the religion in question says - do not > > tolerate other religions. David Li
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