Re: The 2ed Amendment as a Gun Nuts Wet Dream

Tom, you are so full shit!  And please don't start with the kill filter
crap.  You're going to face your oppostion.  One way or another.  Quit being
such a coward, hiding behind your 45.  You're a sad sight.

-- 

     GunLess

"TomB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:34:00 -0600, Diogenes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> <massive snip>
> >
> >It really makes one wonder if they're ever read even so much as a
> >spattering of the documents.
> >
> >Take the Declaration of Independence, for example:
> >
> >WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal,
> >that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
> >                                               *****(people have rights)
> >
> >that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness -- That
to
> >secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
> >    (the PURPOSE of government: to secure rights, not 'grant'
> >      that which is already unalienable)*****************
> >
> >deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that
whenever
> >    (the government has POWERS)*****
> >
> >any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends,it is
> >the Right of the People
> >    (there are those people rights again)*******
> >
> >to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its
> >Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as
> >                              *******(What it's got is POWERS)
> >
> >to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
>
> It really seems that many people have really forgotten that both the
> Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States
> of America were BOTH written to preserve and protect the rights of
> individual people.   The authors of both documents had been exposed to
> the restrictive rule of a nation that had never allowed it's citizens
> to experience freedom and they were insistent that since they had a
> "blank piece of paper" to start from that they would FIRST AND FORMOST
> assure that individual rights were protected to the maximum extent
> possible.
>
> Sadly, the authors of both these documents would be scorned as caring
> little about the rights of the "lesser gifted" or "socially
> disadvantaged."   The would be abused because they were "not socially
> conscious".   Well, it's true, they were not socialists, they believed
> that each citizen was responsible for themselves and for their own
> actions and even for providing food and shelter for themselves.
>
> Well, folks, THAT'S WHAT FREEDOM IS ALL ABOUT!!!!!  I am NOT my
> brothers keeper.  I am NOT responsible for his actions.  I am NOT
> obliged to support his children if he cannot.   I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR
> MYSELF AND MY ACTIONS AND COMMITMENTS.
>
> And for my government to tell me that I am now a lawbreaker for owning
> a knife that I have owned for over 45 years makes me lose all respect
> for them.  For them to tell me that I cannot own my collection of
> throwing stars verges on the ridiculous.  For them to tell me that I
> cannot own a rifle if it has a pistol grip is patently absurd.   The
> framers of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the
> United States of America would be in tears if they knew how our
> government has managed to take their words and juxtapose them into a
> government that presumes that anyone who owns a specific item is a
> criminal.
>
> So far we have not faced what I would consider a tyranny but we are
> certainly faced with oppression.  Will our grandchildren put up with
> it if it continues????  I sincerely hope not!!!
>
> TomB