Re: The 2ed Amendment as a Gun Nuts Wet Dream

Steve Krulick wrote:
> Pat Hines wrote:
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> > Roger wrote:
> >
> >
> > > "David Lentz" <dlentz10@/*NOSPAM*/rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Roger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > > > It seems almost unfair to pick on the historically challenged.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no individual right to keep and bear arms. Look at the court
> > > > > decisions. Look at the law. If there was such a right, the gun control
> > >
> > > laws
> > >
> > >
> > > > > on the books would have been overturned. They have not.
> > > >
> > > > The right to keep and bear arms existed, and was utilized, on
> > > > April `9, 1775.  It was reaffirmed the next year in the
> > > > Declaration of Independence.   If you deny the right to keep and
> > > > bear arms, I such you swear your allegiance to your Queen.
> > >
> > >
> > > There is no individual right to keep and bear arms. Look at the court
> > > decisions. Look at the law. If there was such a right, the gun control laws
> > > on the books would have been overturned. They have not.
> >
> >        I am looking at court cases wherein the courts affirmed that the Second
> > Amendment protects an individual right.  There are over 90 of them.
>
>
> No, you are looking at Kopel/Halbrook's bogus list of cases, in
> which THEY, and NOT the courts, blatantly assert that there is
> an affirmed individual right, even if they are NOT EVEN 2nd Amen
> cases by any stretch, or that anything more than a simple citing
> of the Amen itself appears.
>
> Here's what I told you the other day, but you just can't be
> bothered to be educated:

	The book you mentioned is but one of a large body of evidence supporting the 
founders desire to protect the intrinsic right of all Americans to be armed.

	Your continual attempts to denigrate that right as non-existent are rather 
pathetic, really.  They've been attempted so many times on this newsgroup,and 
have always failed miserably each time.

	However, the real fact of the matter is that the right to be armed exists, gun 
owners are in fact well armed, and no one is going to change that in any 
realistic scenario that might take place for the next 100 or more, a lot more, 
years.  The American culture is rock solid, and that culture is an armed culture.

Pat Hines