Re: Guns cause suicide?

Morton Davis wrote:
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> > > > >In talk.politics.guns "Some Guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > >"COGunWoman55" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > > >> Interesting suicide rate chart, comparing nations:
> > > > >> http://tinyurl.com/wk4i
> > > > >
> > > > >The old causation gambit.
> > > > >
> > > > >Of course an inanimate object doesn't cause anything. But what do you
> > > think
> > > > >will be the difference in outcome to a suicidal person if he tries a
> > > non-gun
> > > > >method (average 5% "success" rate) or a gun (85% "success" rate).
> > > > >
> > > > >It's common sense. The country-by-country comparison is irrelevant.
> > > >
> > > > They'll find a successful way to kill themselves. People all over the
> > > > world manage, proving the lack of cultural bias.
> > > >
> > > > >Just ask  yourself, if you had a friend who had a clinically
> depressed
> > > > >teenage son, and your friend asked you if he should buy a gun, what
> > would
> > > > >you say to him?
> > > >
> > > > "Let me know when you get it and we'll go to the range together."
> > > >
> > > > >By the say, Kleck claims there is no relationship between suicide
> rates
> > > and
> > > > >gun ownership, but he had to jump through some complicated statisical
> > > hoops
> > > > >to reach that conclusion. Again, it goes against common sense.
> > > >
> > > > What goes against common sense is saying guns somehow "cause" suicide.
> > >
> > > Thats disingenuous. Nobody is saying such a thing. A suicidal person
> with
> > a
> > > gun is much more likely to die than a suicidal person without a gun.
> >
> > Really? Prove it.
> >
> >
> Interestingly, suffocation is the most successful method of suicide amongst
> earely teens.
> 
> -*MORT*-

Sounds like we need to ban rope and plastic bags!




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