Re: Guns cause suicide?

"Carl Nisarel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> While I was fishing in the dull canal, Joseph Lovell mumbled:
> Carl Nisarel wrote:
>
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> > >>"Carl Nisarel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> ....
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> > >>>Suicide isn't 'means independent'. Suicides generally are
> > >>>impulsive acts and since guns are more effective, using a
> > >>>gun is more likely to lead to a successful suicide. The
> > >>>general literature on suicides does not support the
> > >>>'method substitution theory'
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>Then kindly explain gun-free Japan's higher rate of
> > >>suicide.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >What happens in Japan is not an argument for method
> > >substitution. You are trying to pretend that the underlying
> > >causes of suicide are homogeneous and due to a single
> > >variable.
> > >
> >
> > The claim of the antis is that the presence of firearms causes
> > suicides.
>
> The claim is that the presence of firearms significantly increases the
> likelihood.

These folks are placed where there are LESS guns availible to them. Their
suicide rate is MUCH higher.

http://www.nicic.org/pubs/1995/012475.pdf