Re: Gun Banner Wishes My Family to Be Murdered and Die Slowly

"Eric Neale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Leon Macfayden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > Do you even know what paranoid means?  If someone sends you
> > > threatening leters then it isn't paranoid to think the treat is real.
> >
> >
> > Try and pay attention. She said this is proof that ALL anti gunners want
PRO
> > gunners dead. it isnt paranoid to think that HE does, but it IS paranoid
to
> > think that every person who is anti gun gives a shit - and its certainly
> > paranoid to believe everyone who is against guns wants her dead.
>
> Unless they need a gun to defend themselves.  In which case your
> position causes these poor people to die.  It is a price you are
> willing to pay for your ideas but the people who die may not feel that
> way about it at the time.



See post number one I made to you today about your own warped little world.

>
>
>  I should
> > have known it would be lost on you. You are extremely thick not to have
> > picked that up.
>
> Your insults are not very creative.  Can't you do better than that?  I
> guess not.


My insults cant be creative. They are directed to a person who cannot even
read properly.


> > > > And if your parents are gun owners children, this can always be
settled
> >  with
> > > > violence.
> > >
> > > What????
> >
> >
> > Dont worry - by failing to understand the simplest comment
>
> You mean the vaguest of comments.

No, the simplest. If I had meant vaguest I would have said so - its not like
its difficult to spell.


>
>  - or by purposely
> > refusing to understand it (if I give you the benefit of the doubt) you
prove
> > that everything I say is way beyond you.
> >
>
> You will have to improve your writing it you want people to understand
> you.


Its only you that cant.

  When I ask "what" I want clarification so please take a stand
> one way or the other.  When you sit on the fense

Whats one of those? Ill improve my writing when you can improve yours.



you can waffle back
> an forth and always claim you ment it the other way even though you
> may not know which way that is right now.


You spell like you read - shitely...and yes that was an attempt to mock you.


> > > > Harsh but I can see his point so far.
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh really?  Care to share it with us and defend it from critics?
> >
> >
> > I believe anyone so obsessed with guns is "a sick fuck who represents
> > everything wrong with america - maybe the world". I wouldnt always say
it so
> > harshly being the diplomat of international relations that I am known to
be
> > but I agree entirely.
>
> And by "obsessed with guns" do you mean "thinks honest people should
> be able to own them" ?



Yes.
>
> > No. See I call you trash and I dont love you.
>
> Not if you call it trash, but rather if it is trash like that peice of
> hate mail you admire so much.

Now its my turn to ask...WHAT?????


> > > How can you excuse such a wish.
> >
> >
> > Fucking hell you are an ignorant loser. I said that SUCKS in relation to
> > what he said about her family. How in your world is that defending such
a
> > wish? I said the REST was very very good - and I believe it was.
> >
> Well there you go.  You still belive the rest was very very good.


Absolutely.

>
> Part of the probelm is that you seem to think "sucks" means "the
> threats against her family were inexcusable".


Yes. You see in my world it is inexcusable for society to allow teenagers to
feel so bad they kill themselves by jumping from tower blocks. It is
inexcusable to murder elderly ladies for a few pence. It is inexcusable to
stab a teenage shop worker for a mobile phone. It is inexcusable for a
mother to get so drunk and drugged she allows her toddler son to play in the
middle of a room of dirty needles.
   A piece of poxy email with a pointless threat at someones family merely
sucks in comparison. It is not inexcusable because I know of things that
truely ARE.


 I know you said "that
> sucks" this was never an issue.  I just don't think sucks means what
> you think it means.

It means its a bitch. It means its a nuisance. It means its a bad
inconvenience. It isnt inexcusable because in the overall scheme of things
it is about 1% on the scale of importance. It is a piece of shitty email.



> >   If someone said it to you in person I
> > > doubt you would take it so well.  If they say it in writing to someone
> > > with a political view different from yours then you admire the author
> > > for it?  Pathetic!
> >
> > <yawn> Dont be so thick.
> >
>
> This from the guy who thinks "that sucks" means "the threats against
> her family were inexcusable".


It doesnt - if at some point I said it did I must have been tired or trying
to placate you - god knows why - it sucks.

 Yup look up sucks in the dictionary and
> it will say "threats against a family are inexcusable" Or perhaps not.

Nope - it will say "what whores do for £2." Or perhaps not either, but
whores DO suck for £2.




> > > No it isn't the key.  How often something happens has nothing to do
> > > with the morality of the event.  Due to your laws, 100% of the people
> > > over there who *need* to use a gun to save their lives will either die
> > > or comit a crime.  It is a tough choice that they face.
> >
> > But thankfully it rarely happens.
>
> Well, it maters a great deal to those to whom it does happen.  Do you
> not care about them?



Sure - as much as I care about all those who are safe from NOT having freely
available guns.

>> > > The weakness of your position is that it only maters how many people
> > > have both the ability and the desire.  Those who want to prey upon
> > > others will get the guns to do so.
> >
> >
> > In England they rarely do.
>
> Haven't we addressed this enough?

Apparently not if you still keep on about it.



You are like a parot.  "It rarely
> happens.  It rarely happens.  It rarely happens."  We get your
> message.  It also doesn't mean a whole lot to those who die.  But is
> that okay as long as it isn't you?


Its okay as long as it isnt most people. We save lives here with this law.



>> > She will be traumatised by killing another person, NO MATTER HOW
JUSTIFIED
> > you fuckwit.
>
> I doubt it.

All you can do is doubt because you wouldnt know one way or another.



 In that hypothetical situation death was unavoidable.  It
> often happens like that in the real world.


Doesnt stop it traumatising someone - just because it was unavoidable.



 Someone else decides that
> somebody must die and all you can do is make sure it isn't you or your
> family.  If you took a stick and started poking a bear cub do you
> think the momma bear would regret killing you afterward?


No - bears dont have a concience - thats what makes us human. And if we are
sane, it means it is working. So you could kill someone and logically you
would say all what you have said - a textbook case of never having been
there. But your mind will not work like that.


Go after a
> sane person's kid with a knife and if they have a gun in their hands
> there is only one action they can take.  They will do what they have
> to do.


Sure they will - and suffer flashbacks as a result. Due to trauma.


>
> I would hate to be the British police officer who arives on the scene
> after the family is dead because there was no gun in the house and all
> I could say was "Well thankfuly this rarely happens!"



I wouldnt say that. I would say Im sorry.