Re: The Armed Citizen - Missouri

"David Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> > > > > > > > > Gun registration is too inherently risky to risk in a free
> > > > > > > > > society.  History has shown that gun registration enables
> gun
> > > > > > > > > confiscation.  First the state asks you to register our
> > firearms
> > > > > > > > > and then the state takes them.   You can't argue it,
because
> > it
> > > > > > > > > has happened too many times.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The state has no need to know which of her citizens are
> armed
> > or
> > > > > > > > > not.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you sir!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Which is the most realistic threat: government tyranny or
armed
> > > > > criminals?
> > > > > > > Registration seems like a small thing to ask to reduce
armaments
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > hands of thugs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Government tyranny is a huge threat, especially given the
> recent
> > > > > tendency
> > > > > > of the people to give the government ever more power.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. how many "thugs" do you think bother to acquire their weapons
> > > > legally?
> > > > >
> > > > > No matter what is done, some bad guys will be able to get guns.
> > > > >
> > > > > What a workable registration system would do would be to make it
> > harder
> > > > for
> > > > > the less serious criminals to get one.
> > > >
> > > > Yea, that certainly has worked in DC. After all the registration
> system
> > > > there is no workable that NO ONE can legally register a handgun in
the
> > > > district, and since it's mandatory for all handguns to be
> > registered.....
> > > >
> > > > Yet, the criminals have and use more handguns for crime than ever
> > before.
> > > >
> > > > Seems like your "workable system" doesn't apply to criminals, and
> never
> > > > could.
> > >
> > > It just proves patchwork controls don't work. An effective solution
> would
> > > have to be country-wide to avoid state-state transfers.
> >
> > Gee, that certainly worked REALLY WELL for alcohol and drugs......NOT.
> >
> > Tell me, if local controls won't work, and national laws won't work,
what
> > are you going to bitch for next? Try to disarm the planet? Free hint, it
> > still isn't going to stop the criminals. After all, building guns is NOT
> > rocket science. Grade school children can manage it.
>
> %%%% I built a 22 cal. zip gun in the 4th grade using a Mattel Fanner 50
cap
> pistol and electrical tubing. My father complimented me on my engineering
> feat then proceeded to bust my ass!!

A bunch of us built zip guns out of several different things when we heard
about city gangs using them. Movies and such, you know? It didn't take us
long to see that they sucked compared to the guns we already had. They
weren't as safe, they were inaccurate, they were slow, and you could get in
trouble for having them. It was good experience, though.

>
> "Perhaps the best gloss comes from the late [Deputy White House Counsel]
> Vince Foster, who toward the end of his life, reportedly told his
> brother-in-law, 'You would be surprised that our own people would lie to
> us.'" (Tony Snow column, The Cincinnati Enquirer, 1/4/96)

Yeah.