Re: Gun control doesn't work--so what?

"Morton Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Trevor Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > "Morton Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > "Jim Yanik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MLee388407) wrote in
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> > > > >>From: "Trevor Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > >>All the people who want tight restrictions on the availability of
> > > > >>firearms.
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> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> >In that sense, it works well.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Really? Where?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Japan
> > > > >>The UK
> > > > >>Australia
> > > > >>Sweden
> > > > >>Holland
> > > > >>Germany
> > > > >>Every other Western, developed nation (except the US)
> > > >
> > > > I like the way they narrow their claim to only inclued
> Western,developed
> > > > nations.Forgot Mexico and Brazil,though.
> > > > Cherrypicking to support a false claim.
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> > > > > Japan has guns..
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> > http://forum.japantoday.com/Japan_and_private_guns/m_50247/p_1/tmode_1/
> > > > > smo de_1/tm.htm
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> > > > > http://www.asij.ac.jp/japan/japan_links/arms.htm
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> > > > > If there is demand for guns....guns will find their way to market.
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> > > > > Mike
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> > > > Australia has guns,too.They are now making guns themselves,in
addition
> > to
> > > > those smuggled in or never registered(and confiscated).Seems people
> > there
> > > > WANT guns,even though ODCs have been 'disarmed'.
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> > >
> > > It's also funny how some confiscated and destroyed guns are still
being
> > used
> > > in crimes in Australia.
> >
> > **Are they? Please cite some (recent) evidence.
> >
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> Been posted. From Australian sources.
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http://members.ozemail.com.au/~confiles/confiles.html#Destroying%20the%20han
> ded%20in%20firearms%20con
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> The public is being assured that firearms handed in to the collection
> centres are all going to be destroyed. While these assurances sound all
well
> and good the experience of past buy-backs shows us that the police cannot
be
> trusted in these matters.
>
> Shortly after requiring firearms to be registered (1985) the Victorian
> government began the systematic confiscation of them in 1988. The excuse
for
> the hand-in was, as usual, a massacre and the public was assured that the
> guns were to be destroyed. Sound familiar?
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> The Assistant Commissioner of Police, Graham Sinclair, has since admitted
> the Victorian Police sold some of the guns handed in to a Victorian
dealer.
> (The Australian, Monday 17/6/96 page 2) The Melbourne Herald Sun (Monday
> 17/6/96 page 4) reported that some of these guns were then re-sold to
> Victorians. What they haven't admitted to was the re-sale of thousands of
> military style semi-automatics around the country to dealers who paid good
> money for them and then re-sold them to civilians.
>
> It happened then and it can happen now! The Victorian Police have never
had
> a Royal Commission investigation into corruption and I personally consider
> them to be a very honest bunch. The Queensland and New South Wales Royal
> Commissions uncovered widespread corruption in both of those police
forces.
> Considering the amounts of money involved (Military surplus guns are worth
> around $2,000 and some collectable guns are worth up to $25,000) the
> temptation for crooked police to make a fast buck on the buy-back is
> considerable.
>
> A shooter I know handed over his semi-auto centre-fire rifle to a buy-back
> centre in South Australia only to have it turn up on a range in New South
> Wales in the hands of someone claiming to be a Police officer.
>
> There have been others. A "destroyd" gun was resold to a gun dealer and
> later used in a "mass murder" in Australia.

**Good work, Mort. Now try real hard and present some RECENT evidence, like
I asked. The stuff you've provided dates back to 1996.

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> "Gun control" does not work.

**Sure it does.


-- 
Trevor Wilson
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