Re: Silveira DENIED Certiorari

"The Lone Weasel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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> > On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:06:31 -0800, "Mike Haas"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>The United States Supreme Court announced this morning that
> >>it has DENIED the Silveira vs. Lockyer Petition for
> >>Certiorari. The Supreme Court will not hear the case.
> >>
> >>We should all be thankful for this. For reasons set out by
> >>long-respected RKBA scholars, this case was disaster, now
> >>narrowly avoided for the most part. See
> >>http://www.calgunlaws.com/ and
> >>http://NRAMembersCouncils.com/ for articles.
> >>
> >>RKBA legal experts strongly suggest that those wishing to
> >>support getting a Second Amendment case before the Supreme
> >>Court send their money to support a case that does NOT
> >>arise in the hostile Ninth Circuit or California.  Note
> >>that there are two Second Amendment cases being litigated
> >>in the District of Columbia now, one by the NRA and one by
> >>CATO Institute.
> >>
> >>Mike Haas
> >>
> >
> > Any gun supporter who wants a case to go to the Supremes is
> > a moron.
> >
> > Right now Americans can own guns.
> >
> > There are two possibilities from a Supreme Court ruling on
> > whetther the Second Amendment permits individuals, as
> > opposed to militias, to have guns
> >
> > 1. Americans can own guns
> >
> > 2. Americans, if states so rule, can not own guns.
>
> Well, I think a personal right to have guns under the Second
> Amendment can't be separated from militia service unless
> there's another amendment to simply grant that personal right.
> Either way Congress will then have power to regulate the
> personal right; ATF's function and funding will necessarily
> have to expand, which will truly piss off the gunlobby; NICS
> would have to replace some state background check systems,
> which would make sense anyway; there'd be a new NFA which would
> create a uniform national firearm law so then nearly all gun
> crimes would be felonies and firearm ownership and use,
> including concealed carry, would soon acquire uniform national
> restrictions that supercede state law.
>
> We might be restricted to certain kinds of guns, like single or
> double shot and bolt action long guns, but no handguns; and we
> might have to register ourselves and our guns with fingerprints
> etc with a federal database.
>
> > There is nothing to gain from a Supreme Court ruling, and a
> > lot to lose.
>
> Yeah, maybe they'd say the states should just mirror federal
> firearms regs and treat less serious gun crimes as state
> misdemeanors and more serious gun crimes as felonies.  Who
> knows?
>
> There'll never be any less gun regulation but there'll probably
> be more.
>
> > Are gun nuts - nuts?
>
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> The Lone Weasel


Yes Lee that may have existed before but the national push for gun control
has begun to ebb past 2000.