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"Carl Nisarel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yardpilot whined: > > > BTW, suicide is means-independent. > > As usual, you're wrong. You got your ass stomped on this one already, sheepsock. The folks at NIHM say, "At the current time there is no definitive measure to predict suicide or suicidal behavior. Researchers have identified factors that place individuals at higher risk for suicide, but very few persons with these risk factors will actually commit suicide. Risk factors include mental illness, substance abuse, previous suicide attempts, family history of suicide, history of being sexually abused, and impulsive or aggressive tendencies. Suicide is a relatively rare event and it is therefore difficult to predict which persons with these risk factors will ultimately commit suicide." They do NOT say, "Guns cause suicide." They do say the suicidal people should not be around guns. Of course, they say suicidal people shouldn't have access to lethal drugs, sharp objects, etc. Your claim that suicide is dependent on means is kicked apart by the suicide rate in Japan, among other places. Let's see you show the causal relationship between gun ownership and suicide that you are claiming. Don't forget to 'creatively edit" this post and lie about it, felon.
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