Re: The adventures of Disarmament Man

Jim Yanik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  doth postedeth:

> "Seb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
> 
>> 
>> "Lurch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:48:01 +1000, "Paul \(Oz\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >And another point, if someone breaks into my house his life is *not*
>>> >as valuable as those of my wife, children and myself.
>>> >
>>> ><snip>
>>> >
>>>
>>> (nods head vigorously)
>>>
>>> The intruder is not valuable AT ALL to me if they are breaking into
>>> my house/stealing my stuff/threatening my person.
>>> Some people assume all human life is of equal value, that holds true
>>> right up until the point where an individual decides that he can take
>>> anothers property/life/health for himself.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mark
>> 
>> Perhaps that is our difference. As far as I am concerned only my life
>> and that of my friends and family only becomes more valuable when he
>> is intent on taking one of their lives. The thing is however, I'm not
>> convinced such a judgement could possibly be made in a situation such
>> as a domestic. 
>> 
>> I don't believe a person stealing my property even slightly gives me
>> the right take their life or even harm them. Until they threaten life,
>> I cannot do the equivalent to them.
>> 
>> ~Seb
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> If someone breaks into an occupied dwelling,you cannot be -certain-
> exactly what their intent is,until they leave and you're still alive and
> unharmed. You RISK being killed,or raped,or beaten(to tell where the
> valuables are),you take a very big CHANCE that the intruder means you no
> harm.And they can change their mind without warning,too.Maybe they
> decide to not leave any witnesses.
> 
> Suppose the 'burglar' wants to "tie you up for your own safety",assuring
> you no harm,do you let him? 
> 
> Why should someone stand by and allow an intruder to take their 
> possessions? Just so they are not taking a life? Let the intruder risk 
> THEIR life to steal from you in your own home.After all,shooting someone
> does NOT always result in their death,and the crims are often arrested
> when seeking medical care for gunshot wounds,which doctors are REQUIRED
> to report to LEO.
> 

Colorado Revised Statutes:

Use of Physical Force and Use of Deadly Physical Force

 
18-1-704.5.  Use of deadly physical force against an intruder.
        

   1.

      The general assembly hereby recognizes that the citizens of Colorado 
have a right to expect absolute safety within their own homes.
   2. Notwithstanding the provisions of section 18-1-704, any occupant of a 
dwelling is justified in using any degree of physical force, including 
deadly physical force, against another person when that other person has 
made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, and when the occupant has a 
reasonable belief that such other person has committed a crime in the 
dwelling in addition to the uninvited entry, or is committing or intends to 
commit a crime against a person or property in addition to the uninvited 
entry, and when the occupant reasonably believes that such other person 
might use any physical force, no matter how slight, against any occupant.
   3. Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly 
physical force, in accordance with the provisions of subsection (2) of this 
section shall be immune from criminal prosecution for the use of such 
force.
   4. Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly 
physical force, in accordance with the provisions of subsection (2) of this 
section shall be immune from any civil liability for injuries or death 
resulting from the use of such force.



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