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Re: The 2ed Amendment as a Gun Nuts Wet Dream



On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:05:46 GMT, Steve Krulick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>When it says THE PEOPLE, it MEANS THE PEOPLE, the enfranchised
>body politic, taken collectively, just as Heyman says Adams
>meant in the Mass Const:

    Heyman is a gun control supporter and he would interpret as much
as could to support his preconceptions.  How does Heyman know what
Adams meant?  Does he have a time machine like Bellesiles used to get
the material he used before it was burned in the San Francisco fire of
1906?

>
>http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/HeymanChicago.htm
>
>How was the right to arms understood in post-Revolutionary
>America? We can attain great insight on this point by exploring
>the Massachusetts Constitution of 1780.[145] This document,
>which was drafted by John Adams, contains the most carefully
>written of all the state declarations of rights and constitutes
>one of the best statements "of the fundamental rights of
>Americans at the end of the Revolutionary period." [146] [Page
>261]

Heyman uses material from the thoroughly discredited 
pseodohistorian Michael Bellesiles to support his work.  Heyman is 
nothing more than another cog in the Joyce Foundation sponsored 
Chicago-Kent Law Review Symposium on the Second Amendment mutual 
admiration scoiety circle jerk.

http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/HeymanChicago.htm
Chicago-Kent Law Review
Symposium on the Second Amendment
vol. 76, 2000: 237

Heyman
     NATURAL RIGHTS AND THE SECOND AMENDMENT
"This Article was presented as part of the Symposium on the Second
Amendment: Fresh Looks held at Chicago-Kent on April 28, 2000. I would
like to thank Michael Bellesiles, Harry Clor, John Goldberg, Mark
Rosen, and David Williams for their thoughtful comments, and Ross
Friedman and Adrianne Zahner for their valuable research assistance."

      Uses:
        Michael A. Bellesiles, The Second Amendment in Action, 76
CHI.-KENT L. REV. 61 (2000); 
For a fuller account of Bellesiles's research, see MICHAEL A.
BELLESILES, ARMING AMERICA: THE ORIGINS OF A NATIONAL GUN CULTURE,
(2000).
      The book that cost him the Bancroft because he "remanufactured"
material that was  destroyed in a fire back in 1906 or so. 

       Carl T. Bogus, The Hidden History of the Second Amendment, 31 
U.C. DAVIS. L. REV. 309 (1998); Carl T. Bogus, Race, Riots, and Guns,
66 S. CAL. L. REV. 1365 (1993); 

     Keith A. Ehrman & Dennis A. Henigan, The Second Amendment in the 
Twentieth Century: Have You Seen Your Militia Lately?, 15 U. DAYTON L.

REV. 5 (1989); Dennis A. Henigan, Arms, Anarchy and the Second 
Amendment, 26 VAL. U. L. REV. 107 (1991).
Attorney for the Brady Campaign

      Jack N. Rakove, The Second Amendment: The Highest Stage of 
Originalism, 76 CHI.-KENT L. REV. 103 (2000).

      Paul Finkelman, "A Well Regulated Militia": The Second Amendment

in Historical Perspective, 76 CHI.-KENT L. REV. 195 (2000).

I didn't really realize what a real circle jerk this was untill I
recently looked at how most of them use each others material from the
same symposium they were attending to support their assertions.




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