Re: The adventures of Disarmament Man

"Seb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Jim Yanik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > "Seb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> > > "Lurch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > >> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:48:01 +1000, "Paul \(Oz\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> wrote:
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> > >>
> > >> >And another point, if someone breaks into my house his life is *not*
> > >> >as valuable as those of my wife, children and myself.
> > >> >
> > >> ><snip>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> (nods head vigorously)
> > >>
> > >> The intruder is not valuable AT ALL to me if they are breaking into
> > >> my house/stealing my stuff/threatening my person.
> > >> Some people assume all human life is of equal value, that holds true
> > >> right up until the point where an individual decides that he can take
> > >> anothers property/life/health for himself.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Mark
> > >
> > > Perhaps that is our difference. As far as I am concerned only my life
> > > and that of my friends and family only becomes more valuable when he
> > > is intent on taking one of their lives. The thing is however, I'm not
> > > convinced such a judgement could possibly be made in a situation such
> > > as a domestic.
> > >
> > > I don't believe a person stealing my property even slightly gives me
> > > the right take their life or even harm them. Until they threaten life,
> > > I cannot do the equivalent to them.
> > >
> > > ~Seb
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> > >
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> > If someone breaks into an occupied dwelling,you cannot be -certain-
> exactly
> > what their intent is,until they leave and you're still alive and
unharmed.
> > You RISK being killed,or raped,or beaten(to tell where the valuables
> > are),you take a very big CHANCE that the intruder means you no harm.And
> > they can change their mind without warning,too.Maybe they decide to not
> > leave any witnesses.
> >
> > Suppose the 'burglar' wants to "tie you up for your own safety",assuring
> > you no harm,do you let him?
> >
> > Why should someone stand by and allow an intruder to take their
> > possessions? Just so they are not taking a life? Let the intruder risk
> > THEIR life to steal from you in your own home.After all,shooting someone
> > does NOT always result in their death,and the crims are often arrested
> when
> > seeking medical care for gunshot wounds,which doctors are REQUIRED to
> > report to LEO.
> >
> They shouldn't, but I'm just saying my moral responsibility not to kill
> someone for a crime that carries such a low penalty by societies standard.

Interestingly, OUR SOCIETY, for the most part, BELIEVES that WE have the
RIGHT to be SAFE AND SECURE in OUR OWN HOMES. We have the RIGHT to defend
our homes and property. MOST criminals who are confronted by an armed
citizen just plain give it up or take off running in the opposite direction.

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