Re: The adventures of Disarmament Man

"Jim Yanik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Seb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> > "Lurch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:48:01 +1000, "Paul \(Oz\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
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> >>
> >> >And another point, if someone breaks into my house his life is *not*
> >> >as valuable as those of my wife, children and myself.
> >> >
> >> ><snip>
> >> >
> >>
> >> (nods head vigorously)
> >>
> >> The intruder is not valuable AT ALL to me if they are breaking into
> >> my house/stealing my stuff/threatening my person.
> >> Some people assume all human life is of equal value, that holds true
> >> right up until the point where an individual decides that he can take
> >> anothers property/life/health for himself.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark
> >
> > Perhaps that is our difference. As far as I am concerned only my life
> > and that of my friends and family only becomes more valuable when he
> > is intent on taking one of their lives. The thing is however, I'm not
> > convinced such a judgement could possibly be made in a situation such
> > as a domestic.
> >
> > I don't believe a person stealing my property even slightly gives me
> > the right take their life or even harm them. Until they threaten life,
> > I cannot do the equivalent to them.
> >
> > ~Seb
> >
> >
> >
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> If someone breaks into an occupied dwelling,you cannot be -certain-
exactly
> what their intent is,until they leave and you're still alive and unharmed.
> You RISK being killed,or raped,or beaten(to tell where the valuables
> are),you take a very big CHANCE that the intruder means you no harm.And
> they can change their mind without warning,too.Maybe they decide to not
> leave any witnesses.
>
> Suppose the 'burglar' wants to "tie you up for your own safety",assuring
> you no harm,do you let him?
>
> Why should someone stand by and allow an intruder to take their
> possessions? Just so they are not taking a life? Let the intruder risk
> THEIR life to steal from you in your own home.After all,shooting someone
> does NOT always result in their death,and the crims are often arrested
when
> seeking medical care for gunshot wounds,which doctors are REQUIRED to
> report to LEO.
>
They shouldn't, but I'm just saying my moral responsibility not to kill
someone for a crime that carries such a low penalty by societies standard.

Coming up with all these scenarios of them raping or attacking me are
pointless as I said if he saw it fit to attack ME, then I wouldn't hesitate
to reply.

~Seb