Re: Use Winchester 30-30s in Iraq

"Morton Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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>> "Morton Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> >> "Morton Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> >> >"BlackWater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>> >> >>    Too bad they didn't FIX the problem before we
>> >> >>    went into another desert war.
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>> >> >>    Ah, those wacky government bureaucracies ...
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>> >> >The "problem" is in the lubrication.
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>> >>    The "problem" is too many small parts with
>> >>    overly-close mechanical tolerances. Doesn't
>> >>    matter what kind of oil you use on 'em, the
>> >>    powdery dust in that part of the world will
>> >>    infiltrate and jam 'em up.
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>> >I can agrree with that, in part. However, oil based is not the only
>> >lubricant.
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>>    Quite true. Dry lubricants like graphite, teflon
>>    microspheres or moly disulfide are more appropriate
>>    to environments full of fine dust. Still won't fix
>>    the M-16 however ...
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>The "problem" is that the M-16 is too well made? 
>Oh well, hopefully it will mean a lot of surplus
>government rifles we can buy.

   Only if our Republican buddies do the right thing
   and firmly codify in law that the RKBA is an
   *individual* right ... that "The People" means
   individual people, not some abstract collective
   entity. Ashcroft gave lip service, but actual
   LAWS - the on-paper variety - are needed and
   some court precedents to help lock 'em in. 
   So far, nada. Indeed, less than nada - there was
   a news blurb today about the SC allowing a lower
   court ruling to stand that relied on the RKBA
   NOT being an individual right. 

   If we can't get even THIS from Republicans ...   

   Anyway, as to the M-16 ... in a sense it *is*
   "too well made". However, given that it's
   supposed to SHOOT when you NEED it to shoot,
   it's not *really* "well made" in any functional
   sense of the word. If it were a civilian rifle,
   expected to be well cared for and rarely exposed
   to nasty conditions, then it would be OK - but
   it's a COMBAT rifle in the hands of goof-off
   PFCs in the worlds most hostile environments.

   Yea, it serves the PFC right to get killed
   because he/she didn't take care of their rifle
   but then there's the whole "mission" thing ...
   and the mission can't be allowed to fail just
   because some of the soldiers aren't perfect.

   Imperfection - human and mechanical - has to
   be taken into account when designing a combat
   rifle. Lousy maintenence, rust, goop, 2nd-rate
   ammo, bent clips, dirt, dust, mud, ice and
   dumb-ass recruits - a combat rifle MUST still
   perform. Because Jessica Lynch couldn't shoot,
   her unit was overwhelmed, many were killed and
   their utility to the rest of the effort nullified.