Re: Possible reason for the gun manufacturers to lobby for the extension of the 1994 AWB

"D.A. Tsenuf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> "Eric Pinnell" <see my web site> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:12:32 -0600, "D.A. Tsenuf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote: 
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>> >Just talking to a seller of magazines at a gun show.
>> >He is of the opinion that the major gun manufacturers such as Ruger,
>> >Glock, Smith & Wesson will be very actively lobbying to EXTEND the
>> >1994 Assault Weapon Ban due to expire next year.
>> >The reason ?
>> >They are facing major inventory and production costs if the ban
>> >expires Thnk of all those 10-round mags that nobody will want ?
>> >Think of all the guns that are already packaged with 10-round mags
>> >that will have to be re-packaged with larger capacity magazines to
>> >meet the demand ? 
>> >
>> >Somthing to think about.
>> >    Definitely something to take action about...
>>
>>   He is full of shit. The AWB meant that companies produced a big pile
>> of mags at a cheap price, which they sold for a fortune during the
>> ban. When the ban expires, whatever they've got left over will be sold
>> at a lower price, but not at a loss.
>>     Besides, there's many types of magazines (such as the 9mm Beta C
>> Mag) that were not available to civilians prior to the ban, which can
>> now be sold.
>>
> 
><sigh>
> 
> Please try to follow.
> There are a whole lot of guns that are packaged and on the shelves of
> stores and warehouses with 10-rounders that will be hard to sell if the
> AWB expires Manufacturers also have some (posibly large) inventory of
> 10-rounders that will be worthless if the ban expires
> Manufacturers also have an investment in tooling to make the
> 10-rounders This would all have to be written off to zero if the AWB
> expires. BUT NOT if the AWB is extended..
> Whatever profits they may have made in the last 10 years selling of at
> higher prices the older "pre-ban" magazines" is a TOTALLY unrelated
> issue, both business and accounting wise.
> 
> 
> 

You don't really know anything about the "gun business" or manufacturing do 
you?

Manufacturers did not invest large amounts of money in new tooling to make 
10 rd mags. They modified existing tooling. And they will modify it back.

As for the existing stock of guns packaged with 10 round mags. So-f***ing-
what? Magazines are metal boxes with springs in them. It ain't the mag that 
sells the gun. So they throw in a new full cap mag to move them. So you 
have to go buy a new full cap at a reasonable price. The guns themselves 
still accept full cap mags.

The big investment made by manufacturers was in designing smaller guns that 
were more appropriate to wrap around 10 round mags. Example: The basic S&W 
9mm. The 915 was a full size pistol with a grip wide enough to hold a 
double stack mag. People didn't want the bulk if it didn't give them the 
extra rounds. So S&W made the 910 a slimmer version. And then chopped it 
some more to the 908.

So they'll go back to the wider frame.

All the mag restriction did was fuel the concealed carry movement by 
delivering smaller more compact guns more suitable to concealed carry.

And I think companies like Glock get it that people like me are pissed 
about having to pay $90 for a USED hi-cap (no I didn't buy the mag) when 
the actual cost should be around $25. Think how much he'll make when we can 
buy NEW OEM Glock mags for $25. Your damn straight I'll be first in line.

Not only that before the ban went into affect several aftermarket companies 
punched out millions and millions of mag bodies. I have been able to 
purchase inexpensive NEW aftermarket full cap mags for my S&W full size 9 
and my Glock 19. Judicious cleaning, inspection and swapping of followers 
and springs have yielded a minimum of 4 good, functioning full cap mags for 
each. And at very reasonable prices.

Would I have preferred OEM? Yes. Could I afford it? No. So being the 
clever, mechanically inclined, f**k the rules kinda guy I made it work.

Feel sorry for Parordnance. Here they just got a double stack .45 ACP on a 
1911 frame perfected and the mag restriction comes along. Talk about fucked 
over.

In fact that may be the one handgun I do buy when it's over. I was getting 
intriuged with the idea of a hi-cap 1911. I may try one on for size,

As far as the manufacturers are concerned it is meaningless. If they were 
found out to be even trying to do what you suggest the company found out 
might just as well close it's doors. Noone wants to take that chance.

Frank