Re: The Armed Citizen - Missouri

"RD (The Sandman)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Some Guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> >> You advocate doing more of what has been proven not to work. Bizarre.
> >> How about coming up with something that might have value instead?
> >
> > OK, I have to ask, what has been proven and by whom?
> >
> > What about, registration,
>
> Good, then all you need to do is show where crime has been stopped or
> slowed down by registration.  New York has had it for years as have some
> other areas.  Crime goes on.
>
> BTW, are you aware that criminals cannot be required to register a
firearm?
> Since they cannot legally own they are protected by the 5th amendment from
> producing evidence that would be self incriminating.  See Haynes v US, 390
> US 85 - 1986.  That means that the only people registering would not be
the
> people causing most of the problems.
>
> > with the restriction that manufacturers must
> > match production to registration numbers.
>
> They already do and have been since 1968.  Gun manufacturing and
> distributing is licensed and monitored by the feds from the manufacturing
> line (serialized) to the distributor (serialized firearms) to the dealer
> (serialized firearms).  The end user must go through a background check to
> purchase that serialized firearm and the form 4473 showing the sale must
be
> stored by that dealer till he basically goes out of business.  That 4473
is
> accompanied by the serial number of the firearm.
>
> The only thing that is missing is that not all state have registration of
> firearms past the initial end user nor are there any studies showing that
> registration would reduce or control violence via firearms.
>
>
>
>
Canada's registration scheme has a BILLION DOLLAR price tag, with ZERO
results. Registration in California, the UK, Australia has led to gun
confiscation. I'll register my guns when the Mafia, Hells Angels, Ayrian
Brotherhood, Bloods, Crips, drug cartels register theirs.

BTW, the local talking heads were flabbergasted when I brought up Haynes
during a call-in show about a proposed gun registration scheme for Forida.
(it FAILED to pass the legislature).

-*MORT*-