Re: Guns cause suicide?

While I was fishing in the dull canal, Karl Hungus crept
softly through the vegetation, mumbling - 

> "AH#49" <"AssholeT#49"@ your.net> wrote in message

>> Karl Hungus wrote:
>> >
>> > "Some Guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >
>> > > Thats disingenuous. Nobody is saying such a thing. A
>> > > suicidal person 
> with
>> > a
>> > > gun is much more likely to die than a suicidal person
>> > > without a gun. 
>> >
>> > True.
>>
>> Not true.
> 
> My bad.

Retracting it is an error. Your statement is consistent with 
the literature on suicide.


> I was trying to make the point that a gun is a
> more effective means of offing oneself than some other
> means, but that suicide remains means independent.

Suicide isn't 'means independent'. Suicides generally are 
impulsive acts and since guns are more effective, using a gun 
is more likely to lead to a successful suicide. The general 
literature on suicides does not support the 'method 
substitution theory'


-- 
Argumentum ad ignorantiam
Examples: Since you cannot prove that ghosts do not exist, 
they must exist.
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