Re: Guns cause suicide?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Mayer) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:44:04 -0500, "Some Guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >"COGunWoman55" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Interesting suicide rate chart, comparing nations:
> >> http://tinyurl.com/wk4i
> >
> >The old causation gambit.
> >
> >Of course an inanimate object doesn't cause anything. But what do you think
> >will be the difference in outcome to a suicidal person if he tries a non-gun
> >method (average 5% "success" rate) or a gun (85% "success" rate).
> >
> >It's common sense. The country-by-country comparison is irrelevant.
> >
> >Just ask  yourself, if you had a friend who had a clinically depressed
> >teenage son, and your friend asked you if he should buy a gun, what would
> >you say to him?
> >
> >By the say, Kleck claims there is no relationship between suicide rates and
> >gun ownership, but he had to jump through some complicated statisical hoops
> >to reach that conclusion. Again, it goes against common sense.
> >
> >SG
> >
> 
>       Then why does this person want his wife to have one?
> 
> "If you've got to resist, you're chances of being hurt are less the
> more lethal your weapon. If that were my wife, would I want her to
> have a .38 Special in her hand?  Yeah." Dr. Arthur Kellerman:  Health
> Magazine (March/April 1994) and the author of the infamous "43 times
> more likely to kill an acquaintance" study.


Because:
"I grew up around guns," he says. "My dad taught me how to shoot when
I was eleven or twelve years old. Firearms are fascinating pieces of
equipment. I enjoy the sport of shooting, although I rarely shoot
anymore. However, as a clinician, as someone who is committed to
emergency medicine, it is equally evident to me that firearm violence
is wreaking havoc on public health."