Re: Kiddie exercises his right to bear arms

"Kevin C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message  The Militia Act, passed the
year after the second amendment details who the
> Militia is:
> The Militia Act of 1792, Passed May 8, 1792, providing federal standards
for
> the organization of the Militia.
>

All the con-suurvatives and liberals alike prefer to interpret the
constitution their own way, not one human in this newsgroup knows better
than our constitutional scholars. So all this griping about what an
amendment say's and doesn't say is ridiculous.... you con-suurvatives got
your guns.. and you liberals got your gun laws... some states fit the
con-suuurvative agenda profoundly, others the liberals. So move to your
prospective states and live happily ever after! Good luck and God speed!


"Kevin C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Don Homuth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:15:54 -0800, Mark Crispin
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, lein wrote:
> > >> The Unorganized Militia:
> > >> http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/10/311.html
> > >
> > >The Militia Law, if you buy the bogus "militia" argument advanced by
the
> > >anti-gun side, means that:
> >
> > There is no Constitutional foundation for a "militia of the United
> > States."  The law is without specific application.  While the language
> > exists, the "militia of the United States" does not, and never has.
> >
> > The Militia to which the Constitution refers is an entirely different
> > entity.  Its operating rules are found in Art 1(8)(15-16) and Art
> > 2(2)(1).  Other than that, the Constitution is entirely silent on the
> > existence of local militias as well.  It simply was never considered a
> > federal matter.
> >
> > >1) *all* able-bodied male citizens and citizen applicants between 17
and
> > >    45 have the right to own guns.
> >
> > Clearly all of them do not.
> >
> > >2) *all* able-bodied veterans of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, or
> > >    Air Force younger than 64 have the right to own guns.
> >
> > Clearly all of them do not.
> >
> > >3) males who are not able-bodied do *NOT* have the right to own guns.
> >
> > Open to some discussion, but not really important.  Clearly non
> > able-bodied men Do have the right to own guns.  It's not even in
> > dispute, save as a strawman argument.
> >
> > >4) *all* female citizens of any age in the National Guard have the
right
> > >    to own guns.
> >
> > And so they do at that.  It's never been disputed.
> >
> > >5) other females, including:
> > >    . females in the Army, Navy, Marine Corps or Air Force
> > >    . female citizen applicants in the National Guard
> > >    . females who are not in or have never had any military service
> > >   do *NOT* have the right to own guns.
> >
> > Simply not something discussed within the context of the Second
> > Amendment.
> >
> > >So, if you agree with the liberals, it's time to confiscate all the
guns
> >
> > Nope.  That requires a leap of comprehension that is entirely The
Militia Act, passed the year after the second amendment details who the
> Militia is:
> The Militia Act of 1792, Passed May 8, 1792, providing federal standards
for
> the organization of the Militia.
>

> > unjustified, save as a fundraising scheme for gun fondler groups.
> >
> > >owned by women, middle-aged non-veterans, and old men.  This is exactly
> > >what Kennedy, Feinstein, Schumer, Boxer, etc. et nauseum want to do.
> >
> > Nope.  None of them have suggested such a thing.
> >
> > >The correct way of looking at the Militia Law is that rather than
listing
> > >who can own guns, it lists who can be drafted; and that the right to
own
> > >guns is one held by all citizens and permanent resident aliens.  This
is
> > >also what the 1968 Gun Control Law, which liberals wrote, says.
> >
> > It's all very nice, but it simply isn't discussed within the Second
> > Amendment.
> >
> > Saying that does not mean there is no RKBA.  There is.  It just
> > doesn't derive from that.  And it doesn't need to.
>
>> An ACT more effectually to provide for the National Defence, by
establishing
> an Uniform Militia throughout the United States.
>
> I. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United
> States of America, in Congress assembled, That each and every free
> able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein,
> who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of
forty-five
> years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and
respectively
> be enrolled in the militia, by the Captain or Commanding Officer of the
> company, within whose bounds such citizen shall reside, and that within
> twelve months after the passing of this Act. And it shall at all time
> hereafter be the duty of every such Captain or Commanding Officer of a
> company, to enroll every such citizen as aforesaid, and also those who
> shall, from time to time, arrive at the age of 18 years, or being at the
age
> of 18 years, and under the age of 45 years (except as before excepted)
shall
> come to reside within his bounds; and shall without delay notify such
> citizen of the said enrollment, by the proper non-commissioned Officer of
> the company, by whom such notice may be proved. That every citizen, so
> enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide
himself
> with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare
> flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less
> than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock,
> each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of power and ball; or with a
> good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch, and power-horn, twenty balls suited to
the
> bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a power of power; and shall appear so
> armed, accoutred and provided, when called out to exercise or into
service,
> except, that when called out on company days to exercise only, he may
appear
> without a knapsack. That the commissioned Officers shall severally be
armed
> with a sword or hanger, and espontoon; and that from and after five years
> from the passing of this Act, all muskets from arming the militia as is
> herein required, shall be of bores sufficient for balls of the eighteenth
> part of a pound; and every citizen so enrolled, and providing himself with
> the arms, ammunition and accoutrements, required as aforesaid, shall hold
> the same exempted from all suits, distresses, executions or sales, for
debt
> or for the payment of taxes.
>
>
>
> -Kevin C.
>
>