Re: The Armed Citizen - Missouri

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> > > > > > > > > > > > Some Guy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > : www.kidsandguns.org
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > : "Washington, DC  -- Gun accidents and suicides
took
> > the
> > > > > lives
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > 1,200
> > > > > > > > > > > > : children and teens, plus an additional 18,358 kids
> > 0-19
> > > > > > > years-old
> > > > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > > > : injured by a firearm and 1,776 were killed in
> > homicides,
> > > > > > > according
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > > > : mortality and injury data released by the CDC's
> > National
> > > > > > Center
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > Health
> > > > > > > > > > > > : Statistics and National Center for Injury
Prevention
> > and
> > > > > > Control
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > : year 2000."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 0-19?  That includes 17, 18, and 19-year-old "kids"
> > > serving
> > > > > > > bravely
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > US Armed forces.  I bet the vast majority of the
> "kids"
> > > > killed
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > gang
> > > > > > > > > > > > thugs killing each other and doing the nation a
favor.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The gun grabbers *have* to include 18 and 19 year old
> > ADULTS
> > > > in
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > "kid"
> > > > > > > > > > > study.  If the cut off age was 17, you'd better
believe
> > the
> > > > > number
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > gun
> > > > > > > > > > > deaths would be so low as to not be worth mentioning.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Just to be clear, the "kid" word came from me not from
the
> > > > study.
> > > > > In
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > study they call the group children and teens.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I repeat, how many of these "children and teens" were
> engaged
> > in
> > > > > > > criminal
> > > > > > > > > conduct at the time they were shot?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To gun-grabbers, that's not important.  It bulks up
> statistics,
> > so
> > > > it
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > be good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I somehow doubt anyone goes out to commit a crime then halfway
> > > through
> > > > > > > decides to commit suicide, but if you want I'll admit it's
> > > > theoretically
> > > > > > > possible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're missing the point.  Why arbitrarly include 18 and 19 year
> old
> > > > > adults
> > > > > > and lump them in with minors?  Why stop at 19?  Why not keep
> going,
> > up
> > > > to,
> > > > > > say, age 26?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is it possible adding 18 and 19 year olds to the stats
> dramatically
> > > > > inflate
> > > > > > those stats?  Likely.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why not include them? Are their lives worth less?
> > > >
> > > > Then let's do that.  Instead of breaking it down age-wise, let's
> include
> > > > everybody.  Guess what?  Guns then are no longer as serious a
problem,
> > > > statistically speaking.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Guns are not a problem at any level. People are the problem. Guns are
> > > inanimate objects. Old SG, the invalid, is a liar.  More children 0-14
> die
> > > from accidental drownings than from all gun-related causes combined.
SG
> > > says, "Why not include people up to 26? Are their lives worth less?
No,
> > but
> > > 26 isn't a child. As we cross the 15-year level, accidental drownings
> take
> > a
> > > back seat to car-related deaths. 70 times as many American ages 15 -
26
> > die
> > > from auto accidents than die from all gun-related causes combined. and
4
> > > times as many die from accidental drowning (CDC).
> > >
> > > -*MORT*-
> >
> > You hurt my feelings mon cher cerveau Mort. The reason for focusing on
> that
> > age range is that parental resposibility exists up to age 19.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> Free hint. At the age of 18 ALL parental responsibility is legally ended
and
> the person is considered to be a adult fully able to make, and take
> responsibility for, all of their choices.
>
> If you had said age 17, you might have had a point.....but 19?

Why does this all matter so much?

SG