Re: The Armed Citizen - Missouri

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> > > > > > > > > > > Some Guy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > : www.kidsandguns.org
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > : "Washington, DC  -- Gun accidents and suicides took
> the
> > > > lives
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > 1,200
> > > > > > > > > > > : children and teens, plus an additional 18,358 kids
> 0-19
> > > > > > years-old
> > > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > > : injured by a firearm and 1,776 were killed in
> homicides,
> > > > > > according
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > > : mortality and injury data released by the CDC's
> National
> > > > > Center
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > Health
> > > > > > > > > > > : Statistics and National Center for Injury Prevention
> and
> > > > > Control
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > : year 2000."
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 0-19?  That includes 17, 18, and 19-year-old "kids"
> > serving
> > > > > > bravely
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > US Armed forces.  I bet the vast majority of the
"kids"
> > > killed
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > > gang
> > > > > > > > > > > thugs killing each other and doing the nation a favor.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The gun grabbers *have* to include 18 and 19 year old
> ADULTS
> > > in
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > > "kid"
> > > > > > > > > > study.  If the cut off age was 17, you'd better believe
> the
> > > > number
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > gun
> > > > > > > > > > deaths would be so low as to not be worth mentioning.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just to be clear, the "kid" word came from me not from the
> > > study.
> > > > In
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > study they call the group children and teens.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I repeat, how many of these "children and teens" were
engaged
> in
> > > > > > criminal
> > > > > > > > conduct at the time they were shot?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To gun-grabbers, that's not important.  It bulks up
statistics,
> so
> > > it
> > > > > has
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > be good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I somehow doubt anyone goes out to commit a crime then halfway
> > through
> > > > > > decides to commit suicide, but if you want I'll admit it's
> > > theoretically
> > > > > > possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > You're missing the point.  Why arbitrarly include 18 and 19 year
old
> > > > adults
> > > > > and lump them in with minors?  Why stop at 19?  Why not keep
going,
> up
> > > to,
> > > > > say, age 26?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it possible adding 18 and 19 year olds to the stats
dramatically
> > > > inflate
> > > > > those stats?  Likely.
> > > >
> > > > Why not include them? Are their lives worth less?
> > >
> > > Then let's do that.  Instead of breaking it down age-wise, let's
include
> > > everybody.  Guess what?  Guns then are no longer as serious a problem,
> > > statistically speaking.
> > >
> > >
> > Guns are not a problem at any level. People are the problem. Guns are
> > inanimate objects. Old SG, the invalid, is a liar.  More children 0-14
die
> > from accidental drownings than from all gun-related causes combined. SG
> > says, "Why not include people up to 26? Are their lives worth less? No,
> but
> > 26 isn't a child. As we cross the 15-year level, accidental drownings
take
> a
> > back seat to car-related deaths. 70 times as many American ages 15 - 26
> die
> > from auto accidents than die from all gun-related causes combined. and 4
> > times as many die from accidental drowning (CDC).
> >
> > -*MORT*-
>
> You hurt my feelings mon cher cerveau Mort. The reason for focusing on
that
> age range is that parental resposibility exists up to age 19.

Bullshit.

Free hint. At the age of 18 ALL parental responsibility is legally ended and
the person is considered to be a adult fully able to make, and take
responsibility for, all of their choices.

If you had said age 17, you might have had a point.....but 19?