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Re: EU Constitution, yes or no?



"J.M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Anneke Andriessen wrote:
>
> > Nils Zonneveld wrote:
> >> Next year we get to vote on a referendum whether the Netherlands
> >> should approve of the proposed EU Constitution or not.
> >>
> >> I'm really in doubt. I want a more democratic EU. The proposed EU
> >> constitution could give more of that, but far from enough. We also
> >> had a stability pact for the Euro which has proven worthless. Why
> >> should we give consent to another set of deals if the big countries
> >> don't give a shit about deals when it's inconvenient to them?
> >>
> >> In the proposed constitution power still isn't fully checked by
> >> directly chosen representatives. To change that you'll need an
> >> unanimous vote of all (soon to be 25!) member states. That means it
> >> will be impossible to amend the constitution.
> >>
> >> At the other hand, if we vote no, we return to the present status quo,
> >> which is also far from perfect.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts about it?
> >>
> >>
> >> Nils
> >
> > There is no regulation in preventing the "headrunners" Germany France
and
> > UK to colonize in a legal sense all smaller EU countries. Now come again
> > where this EU constitution would not collide with national juriprudence?
> > Where in national constitutions does it say that in case of colllision
> > with the EU
> > constitution the national constitution prevails?  This would be the
> > beginning of a democratic EU.
> >
> > Anneke
>
>
> Hardly. The beginning of a democratic EU would be if the EP had real power
> and to have clear cut responsbilities belonging to the EU and to the
member
> states. Giving the national constitutions priority over an EU constitution
> makes no sense as it would make the EU entirely dysfunctional. A country
> could simply refuse to abide by any EU decision by adopting its national
> constitution appropriately, so effectively all EU rules would be
> suggestions, not laws. A common market or any union can hardly work under
> those circumstances.
>
> Jan


LOL, how does giving more power to the EP make it more democratic?.

Why doesnt each country a referendum on whether they want a country called
Europe and then go from there.

Being the whole EU project is to create a country called Europe why not ask
the people ,instead of trying to sneek it in the back door.
















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