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Re: EU Constitution, yes or no?



J.M. wrote:
> Anneke Andriessen wrote:
>
>> Nils Zonneveld wrote:
>>> Next year we get to vote on a referendum whether the Netherlands
>>> should approve of the proposed EU Constitution or not.
>>>
>>> I'm really in doubt. I want a more democratic EU. The proposed EU
>>> constitution could give more of that, but far from enough. We also
>>> had a stability pact for the Euro which has proven worthless. Why
>>> should we give consent to another set of deals if the big countries
>>> don't give a shit about deals when it's inconvenient to them?
>>>
>>> In the proposed constitution power still isn't fully checked by
>>> directly chosen representatives. To change that you'll need an
>>> unanimous vote of all (soon to be 25!) member states. That means it
>>> will be impossible to amend the constitution.
>>>
>>> At the other hand, if we vote no, we return to the present status
>>> quo, which is also far from perfect.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts about it?
>>>
>>>
>>> Nils
>>
>> There is no regulation in preventing the "headrunners" Germany
>> France and UK to colonize in a legal sense all smaller EU countries.
>> Now come again where this EU constitution would not collide with
>> national juriprudence? Where in national constitutions does it say
>> that in case of colllision with the EU
>> constitution the national constitution prevails?  This would be the
>> beginning of a democratic EU.
>>
>> Anneke
>
>
> Hardly. The beginning of a democratic EU would be if the EP had real
> power and to have clear cut responsbilities belonging to the EU and
> to the member states. Giving the national constitutions priority over
> an EU constitution makes no sense as it would make the EU entirely
> dysfunctional.

Its about where does an EU constitution derive its' power from. I propose
building bridges in stead of a unilateral European dictatorship.

Anneke

A country could simply refuse to abide by any EU
> decision by adopting its national constitution appropriately, so
> effectively all EU rules would be suggestions, not laws. A common
> market or any union can hardly work under those circumstances.
>
> Jan




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