Re: French Join In on Anti-France Bandwagon

"Rodrigo Calvo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>
> "CB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > The cross reference of ideas is the key to imagination (playboy quote
from
> > the 80's).
> >
>
> So you buy it for the articles, then?
> Anyway, this quote is not so applicable here, since so far you hardly have
> contributed any ideas of your own, but merely regurgited your "fair and
> balanced" propaganda.
>
> > Believe it or not, France sitting on the UN Security Council has
relevance
> > to how the French think of their own leader. Or does French leadership
not
> > form policy based on public opinion?
>
> Well, yes. As should be. Otherwise that "leadership" may lose something
> called "elections" (Of course, that isn't something George W. Bush needs
to
> worry about, as we saw in 2000).
>
> > Isn't France a Socialist Democracy
>
> No. What in Heaven's name gives you that idea? In case you didn't notice,
> they currently have a conservative President with a conservative majority
in
> the National Assembly. And they act accordingly: cutting welfare benefits,
> increasing military spending and wrapping themselves in the flag. The
> *French* flag, of course.
>
> > which values popular opinion over Legislative mandate?
>
> Huh? The legislative mandate (which, BTW, in the US is held by Congress,
not
> the President) is derived from popular opinion, as expressed in elections.
> In France as much as in the US. Unless you mean that the outcome of
> elections in the US these days has nothing to do with public opinion,
which
> I doubt to be your point, even if it could be true.
>
> If your point is that in France public displays of opinion, such as
> demonstrations and strikes, are more popular than in the US, you may be
> right. This doesn't mean that they are more effective.
>
> And this, BTW, doesn't have anything to do at all with Socialism, a word
> whose definition you appear to ignore.
>
>  In other words,
> > doesn't the will of the people trickle up as far as influencing the UN
> > through it's ambassadors?
> >
>
> As it should be, the people being sovereign. Or are you advocating for the
> return of absolute monarchy? I thought both France and the US got rid of
it
> a long time ago...
>

Then my cross posting 'is' relevant.