Re: DOES THE 9th AMENDMENT PROTECT RESPONSIBLE REC DRUG USE?

Greetings All,

George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL 
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> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:09:01 GMT, brian bennett
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> >> Great idea. That the govt would dare interfere with my right is
> >> absurd.
> >> 
> >> Once such a right did exist in the top lord in an area - he had a
> >> right to first have sex with new brides.
> >> 
> >> Doesn't that right still exist?
> >
> >i honestly can't tell if you're being facetious or just stupid.  your "rights"
> >extend only to the point that anothers' rights are not violated.  you only have
> >the "right" to have sex with those adults who grant their bodies to you.
> >
> >> >
> 
> That view is the view of libertarians.
> 

It is the fundamental view that as long as you don't actively harm
other people or their property agaisnt their consent, you can do as
you please.

Who am I  that I should be so empowered to tell you how to live your
life, so long as you are harming me or mine? And vice-versa?

It's really that simple Mr. Tyrebiter. So simple in fact that it can
be used as a self-contained Turing test.

>
> There are more folks in the world than libertarians.
>

True but irrelevant. However, if everyone behaved as a libertarian
then there would be far more justice in the world.

>
> For instance, our  Founding Fathers were not libertarians.
> 

Really? By what strange definition of libertarian do you base this
statement on? The founding fathers didn't believe in free-will? What
part of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness do you disagree
with? Or would you rather have a government that was authoritarian,
autocratic, communistic, despotic, dictatorial, intolerant, and
totalitarian instead?

>
> So they did not mean to adopt its views.
> 

The US Declaration and US Constitution are written is simple English
Mr. Tyrebiter. What parts of them do not sound libertarian to you?

>
> Thus the Ninth Amendment can't mean that govt must follow libertarian
> principles.
>

No Ninth amendment does not contain the word libertarian, correct. It
merely states that rights are not something to be taken away merely
because they are not ennumerated.
 
>
> So what does the thing mean?
>

Exactly what it says Mr. Tyrebiter. Please read it again..."The
enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. "

What words are confusing you? If the ignorance you are demonstrating
isn't deliberate you can overcome it.


>
> Beats me. 
>

But not me. Keep trying Mr. Tyrebiter, you can figure it out. 

>
>Far as I can tell, no one knows what it means.
>

Then you tell wrong Mr. Tyrebiter. Anyone who can read English at a
10th grade comprehension level is able to understand the simple
sentence "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights,
shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the
people. ". Use a dictionary if there are any words you don't
understand.

 
> 
> You have a consistent logical theory - which surely is not what was
> intended.
>

The only thing intended by the 9th Amendment was to make it
unambiguous that the Constitution does not restrict any rights of the
people even though several specific rights are explicitly defined.

Keep at that reading comprehension Mr. Tyrebiter, given what I read of
your words on usenet I shall not disparage you the ability to construe
its meaning and retain it long enough to figure it out.

William C Colley