Re: DOES THE 9th AMENDMENT PROTECT RESPONSIBLE REC DRUG USE?

"George Leroy Tyrebiter Jr." wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:52:30 GMT, brian bennett
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 

> What exactly did the Founders mean? I don't think we know.

they meant that the govenment wasn't allowed to declare what rights we *don't*
have.
 
> what we don't have is
> >the right to demand that others provide us the means of doing so.
> 
> But that's obviously false. We most assuredly do have that right.
> 
> Your view differs from the views of almost everyone else on the
> planet. Why should we take your views as what the Founders meant?

there are 6 billion people on the planet -- odds are some may disagree with each
other.  in our nation there are considerably fewer -- please explain how you
have reached the conclusion that my views on the 9th amendment (which simply
says that the government is prohibited from taking away rights even if they
aren't enumerated elsewhere in the constitution) are different from everyone
lese on the planet?

are you implying that the vast majority of mankind can't understand the simple
phrasing of the 9th amendment?  we are in grave danger should that prove to be
the case.


> >the 9th amendment doesn't "grant" rights -- it says the government can't take
> >them away.  you have the right to do things to yourself, and the 9th amendment
> >says the government can't claim that you don't.
> 
> So you say. Others say you are wrong. There is no agreement on the
> thing. I am sure that the Founders felt that laws imposing moral
> standards in victimless contexts were ok.

not if they gave it the least bit of thought.
 
> I guess you could argue the central govt can't do it - but local govts
> could.

nope -- 14th amendment says the states can't violate the protections of the
constitution.
 
> That would be plausible.
> 
> But then none of the Bill of Rights would apply to acts by States.

hence the 10th and 14th amendments.

b
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