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ulTRAX wrote: > sorry to jump in, but you need to understand how weak the words "general welfare" actually are in the constitution. > I believe that's covered by "general welfare" clause the Preamble. ;-) not according to madison. the preamble is just an introduction providing the answer to the question "why are we doing this?" -- it is not a definiton of powers granted to the government. further, in article i, section 8 where the verbiage occurs again (and the actual powers of congress enumerated), madison states in federalist 41 that the intent is to introduce a general principle which is expounded upon by the specific enumeration of the powers granted in the name of 'general welfare' and the other reasonings introduced in the preamble and first part of section 8. madison's words in federalist 41: <quote> It has been urged and echoed, that the power "to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts, and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States," amounts to an unlimited commission to exercise every power which may be alleged to be necessary for the common defence or general welfare. No stronger proof could be given of the distress under which these writers labor for objections, than their stooping to such a misconstruction. Had no other enumeration or definition of the powers of the Congress been found in the Constitution, than the general expressions just cited, the authors of the objection might have had some color for it; though it would have been difficult to find a reason for so awkward a form of describing an authority to legislate in all possible cases. A power to destroy the freedom of the press, the trial by jury, or even to regulate the course of descents, or the forms of conveyances, must be vey singularly expressed by the terms "to raise money for the general welfare." But what color can this objection have, when a specification of the objects alluded to by these general terms immediately follows, and is not even separated by a longer pause than a semicolon? If the different parts of the same instrument ought to be so expounded, as to give meaning to every part which will bear it, shall one part of the same sentence be excluded altogether from a share in the meaning; and shall the more doubtful and indefinite terms be retained in their full extent, and the clear and precise expressions be denied any signification whatsoever? For what purpose could the enumeration of particular powers be inserted, if these and all others were meant to be included in the preceding general power? Nothing is more natural nor common than first to use a general phrase, and then to explain and quantify it by a recital of particulars. </quote> if the guy who wrote the constitution says that the phrase "provide for the general welfare" is *NOT* a grant of unlimited power to the government, then we would be wise to believe him. b -- citizen, patriot, stoner Marijuana: it's nowhere near as scary as they want you to think. visit truth: the Anti-drugwar at http://www.briancbennett.com Ask these former drug warriors why drugwar doesn't work: http://www.leap.cc
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