Re: Gray Davis made out with a 16 year old?!

On 17 Sep 2003 02:38:33 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Msmith)
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ARNUT  SHORTSNIGGERzzz   BULLSHIT...........
 
            ARE YOU VOTING FOR THIS?
 
Shortsnigger is a foreigner that came to this country
to leach off it. Now he is trying to change it.
He is complaining about the INDIAN support
for Gov. Grey Davis....He wants the Indians to pay TAXES.
HHMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmm  I thought repubs
were against TAXES.............  BUT.......... Here nor there.
Shortsnigger you better check out history before you
make ASSINNINE comments like your making.
REMEMBER THIS IS THE INDIAN LAND AND THE USA
HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM..... IT IS CALLED 
A TREATY.... YOU SHOULD APPOLIGIZE TO THE 
INDIANS AND GOV. GREY DAVIS.... If you don't I suggest you
get your FOREIGN BORN ASS OUT OF HERE........( or some
of us real americans will throw you out )
 
SHORTSNIGGER claims he formed and ran bussinesses and cut the checks
too......HMMMmmmmmm  What were they called...................
(((((  SHORTSNIGGER PORNO PRODUCTIONS   )))))
Were the checks to the PORNO QUEENS and STUDS?
 
SHORTSNIGGER also admitted to HOMOSEXUAL activities.
SOURSES tell me at the gym were alot of homosexual studs
work out SHORTSNIGGER loved the SHOWERS so he could
BENDOVER and get SERVICED,,,,,,,,So he is married?....
So are a lot of other HOMOSEXUALS....It is a cover up to be 
accepted in the rich society.....They all know but it looks better
for dumbies like the ones voting for him.
((((((  ALOT of GAY PEOPLE ARE MY VERY GOOD FRIENDS )))))
 
WOW a PORNO man and an admitted HOMOSEXUAL....
What next?????,,,,,PEDIFILE........He deals with the kids...
The patern is formed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BE WARE 
 
SHORTSNIGGER IS GOING TO CUT SPENDING AND BALANCE 
THE BOOKS..................HA HA HA
His words are,,,"NEVER SPEND MORE THAN YOU HAVE"
He already fucked up his CAMPAIGN FINANCES
HAD TO GET A LOAN............Great word of honor HUH!
Are you going trust him with our money?
Sounds like the weed in the white house.
 
Lets say we are playing football........
The score is 7 to 6 and you are loosing...
There is 10 seconds on the clock,,,4th quarter.
You are on the 30 yard line and going for a fieldgoal.
You have (2) kickers,,,,One is expieranced and one
never kicked in a real game??????????????
What kicker are you going to use...?  HUH! HUH!
 
ARE YOU GETTING THE MESSAGE YET?
 
********  OK QUESTION TIME  ***************
 
* What is the names of the bussinesses you formed?
* What bank did you get this loan from?
* How are you going to get businesses back?
* 
 
 
 
Women say Arnold groped, humiliated them
 
 
Los Angeles Times
Oct. 1, 2003 09:44 PM


Six women who came into contact with Arnold Schwarzenegger on movie
sets, in studio offices and in other settings over the last three
decades say he touched them in a sexual manner without their consent.

In interviews with the Los Angeles Times, three of the women described
their surprise and discomfort when Schwarzenegger grabbed their
breasts. A fourth said he reached under her skirt and grabbed her
buttocks.

A fifth woman said Schwarzenegger groped her and tried to remove her
bathing suit in a hotel elevator. A sixth said Schwarzenegger pulled
her onto his lap and asked whether a certain sexual act had ever been
performed on her.

According to the women's accounts, one of the incidents occurred in
the 1970s, two in the 1980s, two in the 1990s and one in 2000.

"Did he rape me? No," said one woman, who described a 1980 encounter
in which she said Schwarzenegger grabbed her breast. "Did he humiliate
me? You bet he did."

Four of the six women told their stories on condition that they not be
named. Three work in Hollywood and said they were worried that, if
they were identified, their careers would be in jeopardy for speaking
out against Schwarzenegger, the one-time bodybuilding champion and
box-office star who is now the front-runner in the Oct. 7
gubernatorial recall election.

The other unnamed woman said she feared public ridicule and possible
damage to her husband's business.

In the four cases in which the women would not let their names be
published, friends or relatives told the Times that the women had told
them about the incidents long before Schwarzenegger's run for
governor.

None of the six women who gave their accounts to the Times filed any
legal action against him.

Schwarzenegger's campaign spokesman, Sean Walsh, said the candidate
has not engaged in improper conduct toward women either on the set or
off. He said such allegations are part of an escalating political
attack on Schwarzenegger as the recall election draws near.

"We believe Democrats and others are using this to try to hurt Arnold
Schwarzenegger's campaign," Walsh said. "We believe that this is
coming so close before the election, something that discourages good,
hard-working, decent people from running for office."

He said Schwarzenegger himself would have no comment.

None of the women approached the Times on her own, and none was
identified by Schwarzenegger's rivals in the recall race.

All were interviewed by the newspaper in the course of a seven-week
examination of whether Schwarzenegger had harassed women on or off the
movie set.

Schwarzenegger's attitudes about women have been an issue on the
campaign trail, where critics have accused him of being misogynistic,
based on past statements he has made to various publications. In
response, Schwarzenegger has said he respects women and that many of
his comments were said in jest or simply meant to be provocative.

Schwarzenegger's conduct toward women also has been widely discussed
in Hollywood over the years, no more so than after a March 2001
article in Premiere magazine called "Arnold the Barbarian." After the
article appeared, a number of Schwarzenegger's colleagues wrote to the
magazine saying that the story was inaccurate and that Schwarzenegger
treated women with respect and kindness.

The earliest incident of the six described to the Times was said to
have occurred in 1975 at Gold's Gym near Venice Beach, Calif. E. Laine
Stockton, then newly married to professional bodybuilder Robby
Robinson, said she had come to the gym to watch her husband work out.

Stockton was 19 at the time. She said she was wearing slacks, tennis
shoes and a loose-fitting T-shirt. She said she was not wearing a bra.

As she sat on an exercise bench, Stockton said, Schwarzenegger walked
up behind her, reached his left hand under her T-shirt and touched her
bare left breast.

"The gym is full of bodybuilders and Arnold comes and he gropes my
breast -- actually touches my breast with his left hand," she said.

She said Schwarzenegger then walked away without comment.

Stockton said she does not rule out the possibility that
Schwarzenegger "may have meant it in playfulness." But she did not
take it that way.

"I was just shocked, shocked to the point where I almost didn't know
how to react, because it was so out of the blue and so unexpected,"
she said. "It just completely caught me off guard, and when I finally
came to my senses, I immediately went over to Robby and I said, 'Look,
Arnold just groped my breast.' "

Robinson, a former Mr. America, Mr. World and Mr. Universe, said that
at the time of the incident, he had been across the gym getting a
dumbbell.

"I ran up and tried to comfort her," said Robinson, who has since had
a falling out with Schwarzenegger. (A black known as the "Black
Prince" during his years on the professional bodybuilding circuit,
Robinson has accused Schwarzenegger of racism -- a charge that
Schwarzenegger's campaign denies.)

Robinson said he was upset by what Schwarzenegger had done to his
wife, but did not confront him. "What he did was uncalled for, but I
couldn't say nothing," Robinson said, explaining that he feared he'd
be ostracized by the bodybuilding world.

He said he told his wife to stay out of Gold's Gym from then on.

Robinson and Stockton are now divorced. They were interviewed
separately by the Times.

The next incident described to the Times was said to have occurred in
1980. A former pro beach volleyball player said Schwarzenegger touched
her breast on a Santa Monica, Calif., street.

The woman remembered walking down 19th Street, just off Wilshire
Boulevard, when Schwarzenegger spotted her and got out of his car, the
motor still running.

"Come here," she recalled Schwarzenegger saying, as he motioned with
his finger to the woman, then 22.

The two knew each other. She worked as a waitress at Fromin's deli,
she said, a place Schwarzenegger frequented. One day, she recalled,
Schwarzenegger asked her when she was going on break. "We could have a
lot of fun in half an hour," she remembered him saying. She said she
was both a little scared and a little flattered. "I can't say I wasn't
flattered. Arnold invited me to his apartment." She said she declined
his invitation.

Schwarzenegger renewed his invitation, she said, when he spotted her
playing in a women's volleyball tournament at Venice Beach. "After the
game, he came up to me and said, 'Now you will come to my apartment.'
He didn't want to hear no." The woman said she told him, "It's not
going to happen."

This time, she said, as she walked along 19th Street, Schwarzenegger
conveyed a sense of urgency: "Come close, it's very important." As she
drew nearer to hear what he had to say, she recounted, Schwarzenegger
"grabbed and squeezed" her left breast.

"If I was a man," she said she told him, "I would bust your jaw."

As tears welled in her eyes, she said, Schwarzenegger laughed. "He
thought it was hilarious."

She said she went to her car and "just started crying and crying."

The woman said she told her sister about the encounter with
Schwarzenegger. In a telephone interview, the sister confirmed that
she had been told about the incident at the time. She recalled that
her sibling was "completely offended" by it.

One of the women in the Premiere article was British television host
Anna Richardson, who accused Schwarzenegger of touching her breast. In
an interview with the Times, she confirmed that account.

Richardson said she was interviewing the actor in December 2000 as
part of his promotional tour for the movie "The Sixth Day." The
interview, to be aired on her TV show "Big Screen," took place in a
suite at the Dorchester Hotel in London.

Richardson said she had interviewed Schwarzenegger on previous
occasions and that he had been a "perfect gentleman."

"This time around was quite different," she recalled. "He was already
kind of hyped up. He kept looking at my breasts, kept asking if I
worked out," she said. "I went to shake his hand and he grabbed me
onto his knee and he said, 'Before you go, I want to know if your
breasts are real.' "

Richardson, then 29, said she replied that her breasts were real. She
said she looked around for help from the other people in the room, but
nobody came to her assistance. "At that point, he circled my left
nipple with his finger and he said, 'Yes, they are real.' " She said
he then let her go.

The Schwarzenegger campaign has provided a different account.

Sheryl Main, a Hollywood publicist who has worked with Schwarzenegger
on many films and accompanied him on his worldwide travels since 1995,
said she was present at the interview. Main said it was Richardson who
provocatively approached Schwarzenegger. She said that after finishing
the brief interview, Richardson rose, cupped her right breast in her
right hand and said, "What do you think of these?" She then sat on his
lap and was immediately escorted from the room, Main said.

She contends that Richardson later concocted her story.

A movie studio secretary said Schwarzenegger grabbed her buttocks in
the late 1980s.

She said the episode occurred on the Columbia Pictures lot, where she
worked. She said she often accompanied her boss, who was also a woman,
on visits around the lot. One day the boss asked if she would like to
meet Schwarzenegger, who was in a production office.

"It was like, 'Oh, come with me, you can meet him,' " the secretary
said.

When they reached the office, she said, Schwarzenegger was seated on a
couch. The secretary, then in her 30s, said she sat on a couch
opposite Schwarzenegger while the actor and her supervisor talked.
When the conversation ended, the secretary said she approached
Schwarzenegger to shake his hand and say goodbye.

He remained seated, she said, and he slipped his left hand under her
skirt and grabbed her right buttock.

"He just held on. He held on and said, 'You have a very nice ass.' He
said, 'I'd love to work you out.' "

"I remember thinking his hand was cold on my butt," she said.

The door, not far from where Schwarzenegger was sitting, was open and
the secretary said she remembers seeing a couple of people outside
look in at them -- and then quickly look away.

"All I was really thinking was, 'I'd like to go.' I was trying to
figure out how to get his hand off my butt and his arm away from me
without making a big deal of it. I remember thinking, 'Geez, that's a
strong arm.' . . . I was just thinking, 'Let me get out of here.' "

She said she looked at the ceiling and looked at her boss, who kept
repeating, "We've got to go now. We've got to go now,' and yanking my
arm. My boss did the best she could to get me away."

The secretary said Schwarzenegger released her after about 20 seconds.

Later, as they left the production office, the secretary said her
flustered supervisor remarked, "Oh, my gosh! I had no idea he would do
that." The secretary said she replied: "Oh, well, no big deal."

"I was sort of embarrassed in front of her. It just felt strange."

A day or two later, Schwarzenegger called her boss' office, and the
secretary said she answered the phone. "He figured out it was me and
he said, 'Oh, you still haven't come to work out with me.' " She said
she did not respond and simply put her boss on the line.

Six or seven years later, the secretary recalled, she walked past
Schwarzenegger on a studio lot. "No recognition. No looking," she
said.

Now 47, she has been in and out of the entertainment business. After a
long period of unemployment, she said she now has another secretarial
job at a movie studio and does not want to risk losing it by being
publicly identified. She also declined to provide the name of her boss
on the Columbia lot, saying that it could jeopardize her career as
well.

She has, however, recounted the story numerous times through the years
-- initially as a warning to other women with whom she worked. Yet the
secretary said most women she knows in and around the entertainment
business were untroubled by the incident.

"I was like, 'He's disgusting, he's revolting.' They said, 'No, he's
hot.' The attitude of women was more upsetting than he was."

She also told the story to a friend, Michael Collins, a freelance
writer and director of The Los Angeles Press Club. In an interview
with the Times, Collins said that she recounted the episode to him
eight months ago -- well before the recall race. "She never thought he
might run for governor," he said.

In late 1990, Schwarzenegger was in the San Bernardino County town of
Fontana, shooting "Terminator 2: Judgment Day." According to a female
crew member, Schwarzenegger harassed her on several occasions.

She recalled encountering the actor in an elevator as she headed
downstairs to the pool of the hotel where the cast and crew were
staying. On each occasion, she said, she was wearing a terrycloth robe
over a black, one-piece Speedo swimsuit.

"At least three times -- if not more -- he would end up in the
elevator with me, groping me and trying to take my robe off," said the
crew member, now 41 and still working in the movie industry.

"He would pin me against the corner in the elevator" and try to take
off her robe and pull down the straps of her suit, she said.

The incidents did not last long, she said, because the elevator ride
was short.

The woman said her reactions to Schwarzenegger's overtures evolved
with each incident. "The first time, you're like, "Oh, my God! I was
groped by Arnold Schwarzenegger!' The second time you're like, 'This
is disgusting.' The third time you're like, 'Get the . . . away from
me.' "

She said she told her boss, who advised her, "Just stay away from
him."'

After that, the woman said, she would check the hotel hallway before
entering the elevator. She said if Schwarzenegger got into the pool,
she would get out.

"What could you do? He was the highest-paid actor in the world. I was
a peon," she said. "The only thing you could do is stay away from
him."

The crew member said she told her husband about the elevator
confrontations within a year of when they first met in 1992. "I heard
this story a long time ago," her husband confirmed.

The couple spoke with the Times only after repeated assurances that
their names would be kept confidential. "I'm a professional in the
film business," she said. "I fear retribution."

Another woman, now a wife and mother in her 30s, said she also fell in
Schwarzenegger's "sight lines" while "Terminator 2" was being filmed
in Fontana.

A member of the movie crew, she said Schwarzenegger was sitting in a
director's chair, surrounded by three or four other men, waiting for
filming to start. It was either late afternoon or early evening, she
said.

"I was walking on the set and Arnold called out, 'Come here, you sexy
devil,' and reached out and pulled me on to his lap," the woman
recalled.

She said he then whispered in her ear: "Have you ever had a man slide
his tongue in your (anus)?"

Young and unsure of herself, the woman said, "I didn't know how to
react. It was bizarre. What he said was so specifically sexual, it was
bizarre.

"I remember looking around and seeing this bank of smiling faces and
feeling alone," she continued. The men standing at Schwarzenegger's
side, she said, "were in total support mode -- of him, not me. It was
kind of like everything he did was OK, and isn't it funny and isn't it
swell? It was like they were proud of him . . . Nobody said, 'What are
you doing? Leave her alone.' "

After the incident, she said, she continued on her way. "I didn't fall
apart," she said, but added: "It's embarrassing and degrading when
you're doing a job."

She did not report the incident, she said, because she was simply a
low-level crew member. "You're in an environment where you just go
with the flow but not cause trouble." The attitude on the set was:
"Isn't it flattering that Arnold is paying attention to you?"

The woman said she recounted the incident at the time to a family
member. In an interview with the Times, the family member confirmed
being told about the encounter and said, "Arnold thought it was kind
of fun to toy with her. It embarrassed her."

The woman said she wished she "wasn't so spineless," but feared that
she would be shunned in Hollywood if quoted by name.

"There's an unspoken rule in the industry," she said. "What happens on
the set stays on the set."

Nancy Tafoya, who was also on the set of "Terminator 2," recalled a
memorable meeting with Schwarzenegger. Tafoya -- who was serving as a
legal guardian for 13-year-old actor Eddie Furlong, her nephew and one
of the film's key characters -- said she was talking with a group of
people when Schwarzenegger came up behind her and yanked her long,
black hair.

Her head snapped back, she said. Although she was not injured, Tafoya
said she was "shocked." The people around her, she said, started
laughing.

Tafoya said she was never touched in a sexual manner by
Schwarzenegger, but she saw him push his body against a female crew
member.

Tafoya said she was no more than 15 feet from Schwarzenegger when he
approached a woman wearing jeans, a shirt and tennis shoes.

She said Schwarzenegger walked across the room and faced the woman.
"Then he grabbed both sides of her knees and pushed them apart and
started moving his pelvis into her," Tafoya said. "It lasted about 10
seconds." She said the woman laughed nervously, and Schwarzenegger
walked away.

"I thought that was incredibly offensive, and I didn't know who I was
more annoyed with -- him or her," said Tafoya, a social worker. "But
when I looked at her, I thought the woman didn't have much choice,
because it happened so quick."

Some of the dozens of people interviewed for this article stressed
that the culture on movie sets tends to be rowdy and permissive.
Often, the tone is set by the star, they said.

In Schwarzenegger's case, they said, his sense of humor and language
is often outrageous -- but not mean-spirited. Many of his colleagues
find him to be charming.

"He's fun, extremely intelligent and very professional," said
stuntwoman Simone Boisseree, who worked with Schwarzenegger on four
films. "I like him as a human being and think he's a decent guy."

Another stuntwoman, Chere Rae Bryson, came away with a different
impression after working with Schwarzenegger on the 1990 movie "Total
Recall." She said he often used vulgar words for vagina and clitoris
during her contact with him during the filming.

"He was crude, boisterous and disparaging around women," she said. "In
the makeup room, his language was so bad I turned around and walked
out."

Bryson said Schwarzenegger seemed to have toned down his behavior when
she worked with him on a second movie, "Collateral Damage," released
in 2002.

"People do change as we get older," said Bryson, who was also an
actress and Playboy bunny. "All of us, at one time or another, have
displayed behavior that I'm sure we're not proud of. Hopefully, he's
evolved from that."

Bryson said Schwarzenegger was also on his best behavior whenever his
wife, Maria Shriver, was present. The couple married in 1986. "When
Maria was around, he was a gentleman," Bryson said. "When she wasn't
around, he was the opposite."

One woman who says she was deeply offended by Schwarzenegger's words
was a waitress at the Bicycle Shop cafe on Wilshire Boulevard in West
Los Angeles, where the actor used to hang out with about half a dozen
pals on Sunday mornings in the late 1980s.

"They always sat in my section," she said. The group was friendly and
chatty with her, and always took their lead from Schwarzenegger. They
tipped well, too. "There was definitely harmless flirtation with all
of them," said the woman, who also worked sporadically as a TV
actress.

One Sunday, she said, she was pouring coffee at the table when
Schwarzenegger beckoned her.

"I bent down to listen to him," she recalled. "He said, a little
louder than a whisper, 'I want you to do a favor for me.' I thought,
OK, maybe he wanted more bread. And he said, 'I want you to go in the
bathroom, stick your finger in your (vagina), and bring it out to me.'
"

She stood upright. "I was thoroughly disgusted" but said nothing to
Schwarzenegger, she recalled. "There was drama in the silence of it,"
she said. "He looked up, and it looked like I was threatening (him)
with the coffee pot."

Everyone at the table then glanced over at the restaurant owner, Andre
Driollet. He wagged his finger at the waitress, she said, apparently
fearful that she was going to dump the coffee on Schwarzenegger.

"I was so appalled, and when Andre looked at me (as if) to say you
better not, I immediately went to him to tell him what happened," she
recounted. What Schwarzenegger had said "was above and beyond what was
acceptable. I think he should have had hot coffee poured in his lap."

Driollet, who according to a relative is living on a boat in the
Caribbean, could not be reached. In interviews with the Times, two
friends of the waitress said she told them of the incident long ago.

The waitress said she told Schwarzenegger at the time: "If you're ever
some place and some woman throws hot coffee on your head, it will be
me." He laughed, she said.

"He thought it was the funniest thing. And then the whole table
laughed because, if Arnold laughed, the whole table laughed." 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Recall Yes) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> A 24 year old Gray Davis made out with then 16 year old
>> Cybill Shepherd? Is that legal?. . .though it's hard to
>> picture Gray doing anything that spontaneous. Think
>> of Algore with his horribly phony 90 second kiss of
>> Tipper at his nomination. <shudder> then again don't.
>> 
>> see article at:
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/08/17/national1441EDT0474.DTL
>> 
>> Or for the details on how Gray was wearing a suit as he
>> walked the beach:
>> http://www.nbc11.com/news/2414052/detail.html
>> 
>> Note some sources skip over the fact Cybil was 16
>> at the time and leave the math to you:
>> http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/081803_nw_cybil_davis.html
>> 
>>     -----------------------------------------
>> 
>> Maybe Davis is taking this Bill Clinton tutelage to heart...
>
>i think this whould be good for him