Re: Did the TIers care about the world?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (abianchen) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> As long as Chen Shui-bian's government accepts The Republic of China
> as our national name, techincally speaking, Taiwan is part of China. 
> The only way to claim Taiwan is no longer part of China is to declare
> Taiwan Independence, ie, ROT.  At present, USA opposes such idea. 
> Whether TIers like Chen Shui-bian have balls to declare ROT which is
> against USA's wishes remains to be seen but one thing we are very sure
> is that TIers do not have balls to refute USA's One-China policy and
> its opposition to TI.  When TIers like you and "Don Trickle" have
> balls to do so, there is hope for TI [no matter what LT Lee is going
> to say].  But I doubt you TIers including Chen Shui-bian have such
> courage and that's why Chen Shui-bian has to keep his promise - "4
> no's policy" and you TIers dares not say a word. :^))
> 
> This world is full of funny people.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/03/international/asia/03LETT.html?hp

Contrast this with the dour message from the United States.
Congratulations, said President Bush to the Indonesians during his
short stopover in October, for "hunting and finding dangerous
killers." Cannily, China has wasted little time in capitalizing on the
United States preoccupation with the campaign on terror to greatly
expand its influence in Asia.

A new team of leaders in Beijing who came to power last spring —
President Hu Jintao and Prime Minister Wen Jiabao — have led the
charge, personally traveling in the region bearing sizable investments
and diplomatic warmth. In fact, some forward leaning analysts think
China may already have become Asia's leading power.

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TI's only chance was right after 1989.  One China train had left
station long ago fully loaded.  However, I bet the PRC would prefer an
uneasy co-existence with the ROC for as long as necessary.

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guru Google) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LT Lee) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Trickle) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LT Lee) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > > > Chen declared that he would not bow to U.S. pressure to modify recent
> > > > > moves. Implication: he does not care about the world including U.S.
> > > > > interest. This is called unilateralism.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Question: Taiwan independent fundamentalists do not care about the
> > > > > welfare of the world. Why should the world cares about them?
> > > > 
> > > > Simply stated, the best thing for the welfare of the world is for
> > > > Taiwan to remain part of the world, and not part of CHina, forever.
> > > 
> > > 1. Whether the TIers like it or not, Taiwan is considered part of
> > > China.
> > 
> > Whether Beijing love it or not, people know visiting Taiwan don't
> > require Beijing visa. :P
> > 
> > > Reunification under 1C2S basically allow Taiwan to maintain status quo
> > > and leaves both sides with more resources and energy to devote to
> > > economic development.
> > 
> > Whether Beijing like it or not, Taiwanese are not interested in 1C2S.
> > :)
>  
> > > 2. Part of the world and part of China is not mutually exclusive. 
> > > 
> > > In contrast, TI fundamentalism is only a road to disaster. Bigger
> > > disaster if the U.S. intervenes.
> > 
> > And even bigger disaster if China still ruled by CCP.
> > 
> > > > As I've stated time and time again, only a democractic, free, and
> > > > independent Taiwan, is in the best interested for all sides.
> > > 
> > > Too many crazy voters and too few rational citizens will not benefit
> > > Taiwan or anyone. Merachants of death the exception.
> > 
> > Taiwan should rely on sane Chinese like LT Lee, saying so many
> > beautiful stories in his safe armchir in U.S.