Re: Election Fraud 2000

"Mark Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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>> >> On 2 Dec 2003 21:08:43 GMT, False Document
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>> >> > Strider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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>> >> >> Q.: Why didn't Gore want to count all the ballots of the State?
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>> >> As "False Document" already wrote, Gore did insist on a recount.
>> >
>> > But he never filed for a statewide recount. As late as Dec 7, 2000
>> > he was agruing before the Florida Supreme Court that he was not
>> > required to do so.
>> >
>> You keep saying this as if it means something.
> 
> It does mean something. Even though Gore publicly said that he wanted
> all votes to count, he was in the court system saying that all ballots
> do not need to be recounted. At no time did he ever file a protest or
> contest that would have recounted all ballots in the state.
> 
This is wrong. He was in court saying that at the very least, 4 counties 
needed to be recounted and amended. At no time during the contest phase 
did he ever seek to restrict the recount to a limited number of counties. 
That was Bush.

>> The statewiude recount was
>> mandated under the 1998 (1996?) consent decree, by previous legal
>> precedents and in the Florida statutes.
> 
> I don't know about a consent decree, but the fact still stands that
> Gore was asking for a partial recount of ballots. As you point out,
> his request was for an illegal recount.
> 
No, his request was legal. You are entitled to contest only specific 
counties. However, the statutes and the consent decree both mandated 
state-wide recounts at that stage. 

>> Also, Terry Lewis ordered a stateside recount of undervotes.
>> He allegedly was also going to expand  that order to include
>> overvotes. 
> 
> Under direction from the FSC, Lewis issued an order for a statewide
> recount of the undervote. In the margin of a memo, Lewis wrote that
> Charlotte County should set aside the overvote ballots that contained
> a "legal" vote and he would make a ruling. According the Florida
> Legislature, this would still be a violation of Florida Code as they
> wrote it. 
> 
How so? I can find nothing in the statutes (ie the part of the law the 
Legislature writes) that indicates anything of this sort.

>> BTW, Bush also requested recounts in only 4 counties.
> 
> Which ones?
> 
Seminole, Dade, Taylor and Hamilton. These are the ones I know of. Other 
counties conducted recounts as well. I don't know who requested those. In 
Polk I believe the decision was made independently by the canvassing 
board.


>> Also, even NewsMax  has a story about Gore offering
>> a state-wide recount - which Bush  rejected.
> 
> It was not up to Bush. If Gore wanted one, why didn't he file the
> paperwork? 
> 
Because he wasn't required to do so. However, when 2 different courts 
ruled that there would be state-wide recounts as mandated under law, Bush 
appealed those rulings. Gore didn't. The simple fact is that once Bush 
got his 4 counties to drum up enough extra votes for him, he was 
determined to prevent the same thing happening for Gore.

>> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/15/152106.shtml
>>
>> Spin it however you want. Bush got his 4 counties and that was all he
>> needed to manufacture enough votes to win. He sued to block every
>> other recount - even those mandated under law.
> 
> I have yet to see any source that said the Bush had 4 counties
> recounted. 
> 
>> --
>> "Anybody who wants to harm American troops will be found and brought
>> to justice. There are some that feel like if they attack us that we
>> may decide to leave prematurely. They don't understand what they are
>> talking about if that is the case. Let me finish. There are some who
>> feel like the conditions are such that they can attack us there. My
>> answer is, bring 'em on."
>>
>>    - George WMD Bush, July 2, 2003
>>
>> And they did. Impeach Bush NOW!!! Before more young kids die.
> 
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-- 
"Anybody who wants to harm American troops will be found and brought to
justice. There are some that feel like if they attack us that we may
decide to leave prematurely. They don't understand what they are talking
about if that is the case. Let me finish. There are some who feel like
the conditions are such that they can attack us there. My answer is,
bring 'em on." 

   - George WMD Bush, July 2, 2003

And they did. Impeach Bush NOW!!! Before more young kids die.