Re: Election Fraud 2000

"Roy Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Mark Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > "Desertphile" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > On 2 Dec 2003 20:22:48 GMT, False Document
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Mark Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> > > > > "Desertphile" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > > >> On 1 Dec 2003 17:33:04 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve) wrote:
> > >
> > > > >> > You are afraid of Democracy. You would rather close your eyes
> > > > >> > and pretend it's not happening. You have no argument against
this
> > > > >> > exposure. Do you benefit from the fraud? Maybe that's the
answer.
> > > > >> > Remember voter fraud works both ways.
> > >
> > > > >> Some people, for whatever reasons, wish to ignore the fact that
> > > > >> voting machines in Florida were tampered with during the year
2000
> > > > >> elections. After _The_Washington_Post_ published its findings,
the
> > > > >> Diebold memos were "hacked" and published widely across the
> internet.
> > > > >> The memos show the company's bewilderment concerning how easily
> their
> > > > >> machines were fooled into subtracting 16,022 votes from Gore in
one
> > > > >> precinct, and subtracting 5,000 votes from Gore in another. It is
> the
> > > > >> job of Bush2- appointed law enforcement to investigate the voting
> > > > >> fraud, so it is very unlikely anything will be done until Bush2
is
> > > > >> out of the Oval Office and competent people take over.
> > >
> > > > > This was in Volusia County. http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
> > >
> > > > >  Please explain one simple fact, in Volusia County, when the
manual
> > > > >  recount
> > > > > took place, why didn't Gore's total increase by 21,022 votes?
> > >
> > > >> > The Diebold memos reported that the "most likely" explanation was
> that
> > > some one or a group of people were running around Florida with
> > > doctored memory cards. This is a state where the person who received
> > > the fraudulent votes is the brother of the governor. If it had been
> > > Gore who received the extra votes, and Bush2 who received the negative
> > > votes (decrements to his tally), law enforcement (FBI et al) would
> > > have flooded into Florida like god's avengers; Congress would have
> > > demanded a re-polling.
> > >
> > > According to Diebold, someone used Diebold memory cards to decrement
> > > at least 21,022 votes from Gore's tally, added several thousand to
> > > Bush2's, and several score to other presidential canidates. That's
> > > just the voting fraud that was detected: the actual extent of the
> > > fraud will probably never be known.
> >
> > Again, the reports said this was Volusia County. And again, why didn't
> these
> > numbers show up in the manual recount?
>
> Reread this paragraph:
 >
>  Because the manual recount only recounted hard-copy ballots. The GES
> > > > machines didn't leave a paper trail (and still don't). There is
> nothing
> > > > to recount either manually or otherwise. You plug in a memory card
to
> a
> > > > counting computer - you get a number for each candidate. You plug in
> > > > second card, one candidate loses 16K votes, and poof - what can you
> do?
> > > > Well, other than make sure as many people as possible are using
those
> > > > same machines 4 years later.

And when I question that him on that response, he said:

"You're right - my bad. They actually did recount at least 3/4 of those OS
ballots. I believe the recounted totals are included in the certified
total for Volusia. It's the newer machines Diebold is making that use
touch-screen voting and do not produce a paper trail. Imagine - machines
that do produce paper trails are so vulnerable - how much fraud will
there be with no paper trail?"

Volusia County has a paper trail, again, why didn't those votes show up?