Re: "smoked salmon socialists"

"Don Swayser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Jonathan Ball wrote: his usual Fascist diatribe;

> > It's not that the left is indifferent to the sins of all tyrants. Chat
> > up any smoked-salmon socialist and you'll get an earful about the crimes
> > of Chile's Pinochet, Indonesia's Suharto, the shah of Iran and other
> > Cold War allies of the West. One gets the distinct sense that their
> > biggest crime was not oppressing their own people but being in cahoots
> > with the United States. As long as a dictator hates the U.S., all his
> > minor, or not so minor, lapses can easily be overlooked.
>
> So true. Bet is that Hitler would be their darling if he still existed.

I can see that you have been as sucked in by this piece of "opinion" as has
Jon.

The writer makes a statement that HE gets the impression that 'x' is the
truth and you and Fascist Jon both then leap with joy to support his non
sequitor statement that follows.

Those dictators all committed appalling crimes over many many years.  Why is
it that people like yourself and the little Fascist never seem to be able to
ask yourselves why the US did nothing to censure these dictators?

Don't you notice the so evident difference in stance between invading Iraq
and what happened with these dictators?


> > As appalling as the London protesters were, they were outclassed for
> > sheer moral obduracy by an article in the Nov. 22-23 edition of
> > Britain's Financial Times called "Our Friends in the North." Given that
> > the subject is North Korea one might think the headline is sarcastic,
> > but, no, it's an accurate reflection of what follows: a review of "North
> > Korea: The Hermit Kingdom" by University of Chicago professor Bruce
> > Cumings. The reviewer, Michael Church, is full of praise for this
> > "riveting book" that sees "the beleaguered North in a sympathetic
light."
> >
> > Your image of North Korea might derive from a recent human rights report
> > that documented how Kim Jong Il keeps hundreds of thousands of prisoners
> > locked up in slave labor camps. Or maybe you've read stories about the
> > Stalin-like famines that have killed millions of people in recent years.
> > Cumings is here to tell you that you're missing the bigger picture.
> > According to Church's summary of his argument, North Korea's
> > "transitions first to communism, then to post-communism have been — in
> > terms of social organization — so extraordinarily smooth."
> >
> Of course it has. They're the same thing.

Did you actually bother to do a google hunt and READ the review the
"opinion" writer is writing about?

Of course not!  If you had done so you would have realised what a sucker the
"opinion" writer was making of you.  He has chosen to only use those
comments which supports his Fascist view and eventhose comments he takes out
of context.


> > Church does admit that "well-documented aspects of the North Koreans'
> > darker behavior … find no mention here." But he cheerily concludes,
> > "Never mind: In the battle to open closed Western minds, this tart and
> > witty broadside makes an excellent start."

> > It's hard to know which is more appalling: that a professor at a
> > reputable university would write an apologia for the worst dictatorship
> > on the planet or that an influential newspaper would praise it. The
> > spirit of Walter Duranty lives.

READ the review.  The professor of a respected university seems to have
written a book that sounds worth reading.  The reviewer does a reasonable
review of  the book and it sounds worth a read.  It doesn't sound like it
presents an apologia rather a description of ahow a peoples can be
subjegated by myth and propaganda which is what is happening in all of the
western world at the moment as is certainly what those two old Fascist such
Jon and Bob constantly do.

> Well said Johnathan.

But WHAT did he say?  That he found a cutesey poo expression about "smoked
salmon socialists" that was completely new to him!  He then posted a piece
of "opinion" that contains such value laden language that alarm bells should
ring in any mind that hopes to make any form of dispassionate assessment.

Jon boy constantly trys to portray himself as a well educated man of the
world and he constantly demonstrates how little real life education or
exposure he has had to anything outside of America and its sphere.  The
"great new term of disparagement"  that he thinks are "Irish or English"
shows just how insular and benighted his exposure to outside information is.

But do enjoy him.  His views are simply old fashioned fascist but then I've
noticed that those old views seem to be doing the rounds again.