Re: "smoked salmon socialists"

"Jonathan Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Rubystars wrote:
>
> > "Jonathan Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >
> >>I learned a great new term of disparagement from an
> >>L.A. Times opinion piece:  "smoked salmon socialists".
> >>  I think this must be akin to "limousine liberal",
> >>"brie-and-chardonnay liberal", etc.  Most of the
> >>references to the term seem to be Irish or English.
> >>The meaning is obvious:  comfortable upper income
> >>hypocrites of the left, advocating "socialism" while
> >>enjoying the fruits of capitalism that the poor people
> >>they pretend to champion would never enjoy if the upper
> >>income leftist hypocrites ever succeed in implementing
> >>their socialist dystopia.
> >
> >
> > This is an excellent article! I think it's strange, that not only are
> > English socialists, or French or German socialists, but Americans as
well
> > are doing this kind of stuff. And when I mention to them that hating
their
> > own country is unpatriotic, they call me a jingo.
>
> You need to be careful.  Not everyone who criticizes
> what a country is *doing* is being unpatriotic.

You're right. I disagree with things like the patriot act because
I feel that it has the potential to erode private citizen's freedom and
privacy.

I would like to say though, that the U.S. is not an evil nation, and
many people say literally things like "The U.S. is the most evil nation on
earth."
and "Western values are values of death and exploitation." The people that
say this are more often than not, self-hating liberal Americans!

Anyone who takes a certain amount of pride in being part of such a
prosperous
nation with strong values of freedom, democracy, and capitalism is seen as
some
kind of monster, and labeled a "jingo."

> However, extreme leftists like the loony "aras" - none
> worse than 'Rat' - hate everything their country *is*.
>   One is not obliged to be patriotic, but being
> reflexively unpatriotic, even ANTI-patriotic, is
> evidence of mental illness and wrong thinking.

I don't understand a lot of times how people can have their value system
so twisted around. It's almost 1984ish. White is Black, Slavery is Freedom,
The U.S. is evil, Islamic Extremists are good, Israel is bad, Palestinians
who send their children strapped with bombs are fighting a "holy" war.
Illegal immigrants are good, and should have driver's licenses, those who
want the law enforced are "racist."

It's like they view the world completely inside out. And what scares me is
that these people have significant political power!

> > I think for the anti-American Americans it's a matter of guilt and
> > self-hatred.
>
> I think it's a case of arrested emotional development.
>   These people ALL have serious, unresolved problems
> dealing with society and authority going back to
> childhood.  There is always an extreme childlike
> quality to leftists.  The authority to which they
> cannot reach accomdation is not mundane authority like
> presidents or mayors or chiefs of police.  It's the
> more abstract authority of the real world.  We live in
> a world of scarcity, but leftist/collectivists whine
> that "deserving" people don't have enough stuff.  We
> live in a world in which lack of self control is
> extremely destructive, but leftist/collectivists whine
> that they can't "do their own thing".
> Leftist/collectivsts - Rat, first and worst in this
> group - are people who simply cannot grow up.

What's interesting about the fact that the world is a place of scarcity is
that a lot more
could be produced if a lot of these third world nations begain to build
themselves up and promote freedom and democracy and capitalism.

 > Good opinions.

Thanks. I wish that I could do more to get rid of these anti-progressive
"progressivist" ideas than just voting, but it seems that's all I can do.

-Rubystars