Re: Shooting Ourselves in the Foot

"Andrew Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Dutch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > "Andrew Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
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> > > As I said at the very start of this thread, "I am not arguing either
> way"
> > > because my primary reasons for not using animals are environmental.
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> > Then you should be hunting and fishing, it is more environmentally
> friendly
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> How can you say that about fishing. Do you have any idea what happens to
> the underwater environment when fish stocks get depleted?
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Listen to yourself.  Are you this desperate to keep from actually doing
something to help animals and the environment?  The number of fish that you
would take for your food would not be anything near a stock depletion
number.  In fact, you may just save some by lowering the demand for
mono-culture crop production and the attendent runoff of pesticides and
fertilizers.  You really should try to think your dogma through a little
more thoroughly.  The same goes for hunting.  Which I notice you didn't even
try to refute.


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> > than the large-scale monoculture farming that at least partially
supports
> > most vegan diets.
> >
> > [..]
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> > > My point is that I don't think humans have a clue about how ecosystems
> > > really work and it seems to me that the more we can leave them be then
> > > the better. The problem is that people do not notice gradual changes,
> > > if someone moved into my street these days they would probably think
> > > that the bay had always been like it is, lifeless and dirty.
> >
> > This is about a hunter who supposedly realized one day that his quarry
> were
> > living, breathing creatures, "saw the light", found compassion, quit
> > hunting, and went vegetarian. It was never about environmentalism.
> >
> > I'm more convinced than ever that the story is a fake. Making demons out
> of
> > all hunters is all too typical a routine for vegans and ARAs, anything
to
> > reinforce this us/them notion that supports their raging sanctimony.
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