Re: Shooting Ourselves in the Foot

"Dutch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Andrew Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
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> > As I said at the very start of this thread, "I am not arguing either
way"
> > because my primary reasons for not using animals are environmental.
>
> Then you should be hunting and fishing, it is more environmentally
friendly

How can you say that about fishing. Do you have any idea what happens to
the underwater environment when fish stocks get depleted?

> than the large-scale monoculture farming that at least partially supports
> most vegan diets.
>
> [..]
>
> > My point is that I don't think humans have a clue about how ecosystems
> > really work and it seems to me that the more we can leave them be then
> > the better. The problem is that people do not notice gradual changes,
> > if someone moved into my street these days they would probably think
> > that the bay had always been like it is, lifeless and dirty.
>
> This is about a hunter who supposedly realized one day that his quarry
were
> living, breathing creatures, "saw the light", found compassion, quit
> hunting, and went vegetarian. It was never about environmentalism.
>
> I'm more convinced than ever that the story is a fake. Making demons out
of
> all hunters is all too typical a routine for vegans and ARAs, anything to
> reinforce this us/them notion that supports their raging sanctimony.
>
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