Re: Way to go, Dutch - you just made Fuckwit's argument for him.

Rubystars wrote:

> "Jonathan Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Rubystars wrote:
> >
> >
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > >   See if you can get anything out of this. If so, maybe we can go on
> > > > about it a little farther:
> > >
> > >
> > > Nope, seemed like a bunch of gibberish. :(
> >
> > That shouldn't come as any surprise.  Fuckwit is an
> > extremely inarticulate, uneducated goof.  You may think
> > I'm merely being insulting, but I'm not.  I mean, I am
> > being insulting, but I'm not *merely* being insulting;
> > Fuckwit really is extremely inarticulate, and
> > uneducated.  I am quite certain he's a high school
> > drop-out.
>
>
> I still can't quite seem to understand how beings that don't exist have any
> right to be conceived.

Fuckwit doesn't explicitly say they have a right to be 
conceived.  It's something that derives *necessarily* 
from what he does say.

> I mean, a hundred generations from now, there will be
> cockroaches, but those roaches don't exist right now.

Fuckwit makes a distinction between the animals that 
humans raise to use and other animals.  Right now, 
today, some humans intend for "future farm animals" to 
exist.  It is this intent, coupled with his irrational 
belief that "getting to experience life" is a good 
thing per se, that confers a "right to be conceived" on 
them.

> If I smash a female
> with an egg case on her behind and smash that too, does that mean I've
> deprived those roaches a hundred generations from now of the right to
> experience life?

Yes, but because humans don't intend for roaches to 
live, you haven't done anything wrong in Fuckwit's 
weird view.  On the other hand, if you were to persuade 
all humans to stop eating meat, so that farm animals 
were to go extinct, Fuckwit would have to believe that 
you have done a great evil to "future farm animals": 
you would have "deprive[d] them of having what life 
they could have?"  The full quote is:

       What gives you the right to want to deprive
       them [unborn animals] of having what life they
       could have?
       Fuckwit - 10/12/2001

Fuckwit is an irrational loon.

> > Fuckwit has bred both fighting cocks and fighting dogs;
> > he has actively participated in cockfighting and
> > dogfighting, not just as a supplier but as a handler.
> > He believes that *any* use of animals by humans is
> > acceptable.
>
>
> Those who participate in dog fights and cock fights are scum and should be
> in prison.