Re: So, What IS a Fascist, anyway?

"Jonathan Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Jeff McCann wrote:
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> > "usual suspect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>Rat & Swan wrote:
> >>
> >>>But, in fact, that is very much what he is, although he doesn't see
> >
> > it
> >
> >>>himself (as you say, "fascist" has become a dirty word).  He took
> >>>power by legal means, but without winning an election.
> >>
> >>He won the election.
> >
> >
> > But not without employing dirty tricks to influence the outcome.
> >
> > Jeff
> > *****
> > Miami-Dade vote recount demonstration was staged
> >
> > On November 22nd a violent demonstration
>
> No, it was not violent.

Just because you say so?  Or to borrow your favorite phrase - ipse
dixit.

> > occurred in Miami in protest to
> > a recount of the Miami-Dade ballots.  This demonstration was
initially
> > reported as a spontaneous outburst by local Miami citizens, due to
> > Republican insistence that is was such, and shown on local and
national
> > television.  This demonstration lead to the ceasing of recounts of
Miami
> > ballots.
> >
> > It turns out that the demonstration was an organized Republican
> > demonstration of party loyalists who were called to Miami (with all
> > expenses paid) and organized to incite violence and disrupt the
recounts
> > in Miami, a heavily Democratic county.
>
> Anti-global activists flocked to Seattle in 1999, and
> to Genoa in 2001.  Does the demonstrators were not all
> locals make their point, ipso facto, invalid?

Totally different context.  The activity at the conferences attracted
protesters from around the globe precisely because, inter alia, global
trade agreements were being negotiated.  Furthermore, they did not
pretend to anything other than what they actually were, unlike the
political operatives the Bush campaign sent to Dade to disrupt the vote
counting ("This demonstration was initially reported as a spontaneous
outburst by local Miami citizens, due to Republican insistence that is
was such").

Jeff